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Dictator: Jean-Bédel Bokassa

Colt Draine and Owen "The Mic" McMichael Episode 35

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What happens when an orphan from French Equatorial Africa rises to power and takes over the Central African Republic in a coup? Discover the intriguing story of Jean-Bédel Bokassa, whose admiration for a French grammar book shaped his identity and led him to establish an Empire, all while seeking financial support from the very colonizers responsible for the brutalities of his homeland. But was he a savior or a monster?

Join us as we unravel the chilling horrors of Bokassa's reign, including rumors of cannibalism, the murder of army officers, and his alleged involvement in the killing of school children. How can we reconcile these atrocities with the humanitarian image he tried to present? And what role did foreign powers, such as France and China, play in supporting and catering to his brutal regime?

Finally, we delve into the Central African Republic's troubled history and its ongoing challenges, such as widespread poverty, violent attacks against civilians, and the mysterious presence of the Wagner Group. Learn how Bokassa sought to distance himself from France while turning to China for assistance, and how his actions continue to impact the region today. Don't miss this captivating exploration of a powerful and complex figure, and the nation he once ruled.

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Speaker 1:

Oh, hi, hi, Hello, hello.

Speaker 2:

I'm a little Well concerned. Is this Toga? Does this Toga look authentic? I don't know. I mean, i'm really, i want to be like you know, i want him to think I like, i'm cool with the people, or something like that, or maybe a little bit distinguished. I mean, if I itch a lot, does it make me seem more like Napoleon? Should I kneel, get shorter? I'm not sure, i don't know. I just, i just I don't know The hell with the.

Speaker 2:

Toga, It is Okay, Thank you. Finally somebody recognized. You know what's weird about this is all my friends like. We're so excited about this. Nobody showed up, I know.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I just kind of suck.

Speaker 2:

Only one, royal. Yeah, i even learned how to speak some French. I don't know, i don't know Anyway. So, my friend Owen, this is your show here, bocaça, let's hear it. My friend, i'm excited about this episode.

Speaker 1:

Jean Bédé Bocaça, born February 22, 1921, one of 12 children to village chief Mendolyn Mufasa and his mother, Marie Yukoah, near an equatorial forest in then French equatorial Africa. Mufasa was in charge of rounding up his people to work for the French forestier company. He heard tales of a prophet Karnu, who resisted French colonialism and first labor. Mendolyn declared his people would no longer follow orders from the French. he released villagers being held hostage by the foresting company.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they weren't too happy about that, No, no, no, you know here, let's set some of this scene real quick. My friend, your French colonial rule But people don't understand about French colonial rule is colonization is like hostile takeover. I mean, they went through and they displaced everybody and they made them slaves. That's what happened And this was, and it started in like the 1800s, i believe, like 1880 something, and then it didn't end until they uprising in what? 1923. Right, it was something of that nature. The thing that I thought was interesting about it, and just to set the scene, is how brutal colonization can be.

Speaker 1:

So I want to kind of like, Oh God.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, i mean like what happened in the car is. I thought kind of funny that they call it a when Bocasa. Central African Republic Yeah they're like when Bocasa took over the car, i'm like oh okay, but anyway they car. Yes, indeed, but yeah, no, colonization, ain't no joke. I mean, like this Spanish did it pretty bad too. But the French, you guys looking at you, French.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, Euro trash, just all about, you know yeah.

Speaker 2:

And this was going on.

Speaker 1:

Never sets on the British Empire.

Speaker 2:

Yeah it still is. Yeah, it's yeah.

Speaker 2:

I have read some things about what's going on now, but I just want to say something real quick Nobody's ever apologized for all these atrocities, except for the US. That's it Like we apologize for our atrocities, francis, still over there screwing shit up in Africa, all these countries like that, you know, every time we all think that, like the US, and racial tensions and all these things are so terrible which they are, it sucks. It shouldn't be the way it is. I agree with that. These other countries over there, none of them give a flying fuck about you, what you are, what color you are or anything. That's my point.

Speaker 2:

And yeah, and that comes from this shit. Colonization from way, way, way back. And guess what? We weren't colonizers, guys in our own right, not like these guys. These guys came through and just slashed and burned. They didn't even bother trying to like integrate these people into their societies, they just they were slaves, that's it All. Right now, that's where this guy comes from.

Speaker 1:

Well, and then his father was detained by the, forced in company and taken away, bound in chains and later beaten to death in the town square, and his mother was so grief-stricken by the violent loss of her husband she killed herself. And in school Bocasa was often ridiculed for being an orphan. That's really kind and understanding, but probably had a little bit to do with why it turned out the way he was.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

He was enamored with a French grammar book by Jean Bédéu, and that's where his teachers began to call him Jean Bédéu. He studied briefly to become a priest before, during the military, served in World War II and rose through the military ranks, becoming a colonel And eventually taking over, in a coup the last night of 1965, the Central African Republic at the time.

Speaker 1:

That's where it in 1976, and Bocasa revealed his plans to declare it's an empire rather than a republic, to ally French presidents. Valéry Giscard de Stain, i probably screwed that up, but I did my best. Well, giscard suggested a modest traditional African celebration. Bocasa had much grander plans. Oh, i'm sure he did. Well, the CAR was one of the poorest countries on the continent. He wanted to emulate the coordination of Napoleon on December 2nd 1804, consistently asking for help from the French financially. And Giscard had little choice, as they wanted to retain all the mining rights. People were poor, the land was rich and sparkling stuff that the European countries wanted.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, did you know? there's more to that? Okay, so, like, one of the other things was that Bocasa had a boy in France and I should have wrote his name down. He was pretty big deal. He looked up to him and idolized him, and you may or may not have some notes on him later. If not, i'll bring him back up But he had died and once he was gone, bocasa didn't really have his backing anymore, and this is pre-Emperor status, okay.

Speaker 2:

So anyway, he didn't have this backbone of this guy in France anymore And, no matter what, this guy didn't like him anyway. He used to call him the idiot in Africa, right, and for some reason, bocasa was just like oh, it's just like, playful, i guess I don't know, but what ended up happening was he became upset after this man died, you know, and he felt betrayed by France and how they were handling his new situation with his new, basically, boss or overlord, or whatever you want to say in France there, and so he decided to lean out and make friends with Gaddafi. Yes, i did see that. Okay, yeah conversion.

Speaker 2:

So it was that and then so it was a combination of that and just like all the resources, because what he did is he kicked out the agricultural ministry or whatever, what not of France, from car and or soon to be, the Empire, you know, and whatnot, and and it kind of made it so like they had no choice, they didn't want this guy to line up with Gaddafi and then, all of a sudden, they had no diamonds, nothing, no timber, all these other things, and prior to his takeover, what not? in the coup, he actually took over from his cousin, right, he basically, like, was his cousin's right hand man And people were always worried about him because he was very flashy and that was kind of like his only thing. He even had an armed guard before he took over, of up to 500 people because his cousin was trying to be like, yeah, you're my right hand man, kind of deal. And he had this military background from the French military, you know, and he didn't even bother training these guys, right, they were just just dudes, you know, kind of like what you?

Speaker 2:

I imagine this, i imagine, like, have you ever seen the movie Lord of War with Nicholas Cage? Oh, ok, well, these guys just ride around in the middle of some little like shanty town in like some military jeep with a machine gun, and they got these two like girls and Dallas Cowboy cheerleader outfits and her snorting gun powder with cocaine. Ok, this is what I imagine Bocas's boys are like. Ok, but in the 70s I don't know if they knew about the Cowboys yet or whatnot, but that's the movie You know. So anyway, he doesn't even bother doing it's all for show, like I don't even. I hope. I hope we learn more about this in the future with you, my friend. But yeah, he, he took power from his cousin and later on he executed him as well.

Speaker 1:

Right, so yeah, he was fond of execution. Yeah, there is even something about kids throwing rocks at his car because his wife owned a company that they were forced to buy these insanely expensive uniforms for for school that they really couldn't afford. And so his protest and said, like over 100 kids are rounded up and only if you survived. He ordered them, killed and bashed some of their skulls in with a cane or some kind of, yeah, any, but yeah, yeah, the coronation was just to show like, hey, look at, i am this cool that I can do this Right. Yeah, before it, they, several committees are created to prepare for it and make the appearance of the Capitol look much cleaner than it was. They ran off beggars and vagrants and then, as far as the Imperial throne, 300 workers were hired to work on it, which came complete with red velvet and gilded bronze with an eagle if its wings stretched out. The estimated cost of the throne at the time was roughly 2.5 million. Good God, yeah, that's 1976. Yeah, i know what that is today, but it's a lot, yeah, it's a lot. 2.5, a lot today. Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1:

Many costumes are made in France. The Imperial outfit included your toe. Go there, drape down to the floor decorated with thousands of tiny pearls. Oh, i forgot about those shoes also adorned with pearls and a 30 foot crimson velvet mantle covered in golden eagle emblems and edged in ermine fur. But the fuck's an ermine. The cost was 145,000.

Speaker 2:

What's an ermine? That's what I want to know, And I also want to know it's a weird little weasel thing.

Speaker 1:

They're sketchy, they're white, I think. typically, That's what the pictures of this are.

Speaker 2:

They look similar to a ferret?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Hey, did you have a?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah yeah, did you have a pearl necklace?

Speaker 1:

But it would take a lot of them. Oh, 72,400 I don't know whether needs extra 400 more went to address for the Empress, complete with 935,000 metallic glitters. Garth Brooks would have been impressed. He would have been. At least another 2.5 million afforded will cost the Imperial crown the kind of that a crimson canopy with urban headband in the middle. Of the golden crown was an eagle with an 80-karat diamond in the most prominent place on An offensive hat. Oh you fancy.

Speaker 2:

Hey, all I want to know is that is that a conflict diamond? because I could change my whole opinion.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, probably wasn't the conflict-free zone diamonds Yeah, i don't think so. Oh, terracrown was inlaid with diamonds. Yeah, much more jewelry the imperial scepter and a sword and The Empress. Her crown had only a 25 karat diamond.

Speaker 2:

Hmm, That's crazy. Yeah, i don't even know. I remember there is. Wasn't there some shit about flagra? Do you have any dollar amounts on? what do you spend on the, the flagra?

Speaker 1:

Let's see, he ordered more than 240 funds. It's a fun tons of food, 40,000 bottles of wine, 24,000 bottles of Malae chandon. All the rappers say moet, it's French, it's moe. But they have all the money to buy it And I don't. So dude pay homage pay homage. Plenty of his favorite scotch shivers, regal. Yeah, you purchased 60 new Mercedes Benz, which were also really difficult to get in there, so just to fly in the 60 vehicles was three hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 2:

Jesus Christ, hey, you know, this whole time there's a bunch of little kids with flies on their eyes in that country.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, but he would have executed if they bothered him.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the overall cost of the whole current nation was roughly 22 million right, hey, you know, like, okay, i'm gonna say something like this is directly Francis fault. It is direct Francis fault because you start colonizing shit, just like, just like fucking Spain, just like Portugal, all these countries that have not apologized. You know, spain's actually was arguing with the Mexican president over land rights up to 2018, about shit.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, these people like literally wiped whole tribes off the map and whole like everything, and like France. You guys are fucked up for that, not the French people. Okay, let's, let's differentiate. Yeah, yeah, yeah they did wind up. No, i got friends in France and they're cool shit, like you know. It's what it is, but like fucking fuck you French government. No wonder how Bundy Haiti got a little bit of French.

Speaker 1:

That's probably why I know how to eat, because the rest of my bloodline, yeah, like Scottish, english, irish Barf, barf barf. as far as cuisine, yeah, the majority of the cost of the coronation, but because I still spent a lot of money, they didn't have right, even stated everything here was financed by the French government.

Speaker 1:

We have to French for money, get it and waste it. Oh my god. Invitations to emperor Hirohito of Japan and Michelle of Iran were declined and many other world leaders chose not to be present at this event. Which, um Idi, i mean being one, yeah, i mean there was all kinds of crazy food. Um, the, yeah, the scariest thing he leaned over to, i forget who. It was somebody, somebody from France who, oh, robert Galley, and then Bocasa, said you didn't realize it or you didn't notice it, but you ate human meat. Yeah, so it's unknown if he actually served human flesh at the Garnation. I don't know why. I just kind of didn't go into all the actual food, but he was rumored to feed, cut off ears and stuff and feed him to people. I mean, he was this guy, this guy's worse than Scott Beyo, people Like.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, for real. Now Bocasa's next level. Much worse. Yeah, even, even Beyo. He doesn't hold a candle. One of the you know he was when he got charged with things. He was charged with murdering his army officers. He was charged with murdering his army officers, poisoning his grandchild, hiding corpses, cannibalism and supervising an operation in which at least 50 school children were killed in the streets in Bengwais, nagarabwe prison for protesting the mandatory wearing of uniform. So that's what you're talking about, right? That's fucking insane dude.

Speaker 2:

I'm sure, like you know what's I don't know if we really need to know that much in detail, but like I'm assuming there's some real fucking horror stories about this guy, like if you were to really look into it.

Speaker 2:

There is books about him, obviously, and it seems to be like this man, it's like regardless of it being France's fault and all that shit, and like these, these people like that I always notice in these situations that I don't know, i almost feel like I hate to be like the US should step in or the people, but like fuck man, like these guys have no infrastructure and it's like it sucks that it's impossible for a country that's like at least doing well can't just step in and actually like facilitate it and then like not make any money off of it and then walk away Right, because that's what would actually help some of these places, i think I don't know Like otherwise, it just has to like be a thousand years, the trauma goes away, or like these people's don't exist anymore, kind of deal, and then the problem's gone. I feel You know, i don't know how you fix this sort of situation Like could you imagine growing up somewhere like that, like even now? Oh my god.

Speaker 1:

That is something the older I get, the more. I'm just appreciative that, like I get up and don't have to worry about you know, am I going to eat today? Am I going to be shot, or is it? all is a slight concern, but not a, you know, pressing. Like you know, like you've got a good chance that you might just get killed for existing Right. So I really can't and it really Yeah this is a nut job With perspective.

Speaker 2:

You know, you talk about horror movies and things that are like I don't even know, like this is like the stuff that these guys do over there to this day in Africa is like a horror movie. And then you know, and then I guess it only upsets me because I, like you, watch what goes out down in like South America, mexico, africa, like this, like these countries for real, these ones that we actually kind of have like some sort of direct influence over, especially our South American friends in Mexico, Like what the fuck are we doing? Not like stepping in, you know, easy, i know, if you displace somebody, like it just creates a new rift or whatever. But these dictators, we have drones that would just kill them, right, like. Or these like little warlords and shit, like you know, like why don't we just do that shit? I don't get it.

Speaker 2:

And what? you set up a boundary with UN troops, you know women and children type shit, farming community only and everybody else. Go fuck yourself. Or starting a new country, i don't know. Like. You know, if you want to be a dipshit, there's no three strikes and you're out. It's one strike and you're into the land of the goons with their machine guns and cocaine Right. I don't know, that seems pretty bad.

Speaker 1:

It's not known if lobster boy attended the coronation, but oh man, that guy that guy, you know we'll get into him later.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, a lot of the stuff that fueled this too was as France is like they were. They were very opulent at the time, right, and ivory became a big thing, like you said. So was ivory, diamonds and then timber, i guess, like because France doesn't have trees, apparently, right, so like they only have ponds. French, yeah, they only have ponds that magically heal people, and you know there's one, yeah, and they're home, home to one of the kindest people ever, william the bastard.

Speaker 1:

AKA the Oh yeah, he's a lovely, lovely, he would have attended both classes, oh.

Speaker 2:

God, they'd have been homies. William the bastard, and you throw in a Catholic pope and we're in business. Oh man, those three, those three. Yeah, i don't know about the pope now, but who really knows a bunch? Yeah they'll be. they'll be playing cards in hell, that's for sure.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, eating Gaddafi fried chicken.

Speaker 2:

Oh dang, i like that. So what else you got on our friend here about cause and my friend Um, that was about it.

Speaker 1:

I was mostly just really interested in the coronation because it's just so ridiculous It is. It's been three years before I was around, so like this isn't really that long ago. I know I'm old, but like to think that, yeah, like you said, that nobody stepped in and it was just like all right, whatever you know, it's not our problem.

Speaker 1:

And there wasn't, yeah, there wasn't this outcry to like pretend, you know, some people truly, truly do care and go, try and do stuff, but now people you know would be Raise you can think about it to look like they were right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and you know what? here's the thing this is the common trend when, like, his cousin took power, you know, is basically like a revolution from France and, you know, went from slavery into like, basically, and I don't know if they kind of Juggled around their economy, it seemed like his cousin was actually gonna lead the country in the right direction. He, he was that. Unfortunately, he was like kind of leaning on China to try to separate himself from France, but it doesn't sound like he had much options and that was something that Bocasse uses leverage to, for the French were cool with him taking over after the fact, because he used The Chinese is a reason why he said his cousin was a threat Is kind of what I got out of it.

Speaker 2:

So it's all just this, this big game in the French were catering to it. I mean, they're paying for every bit of it. And then you know, and then, as soon as Bocasse, it takes over here, obviously, like one of the things that does happen is it goes from slavery to like this guy trying to figure out What's going to go on with this country and is in what not, and then it jumps into basically indentured servitude, which is a fancier form of slavery that you know back in the day in England They you would know very well if you ever looked into it. But like, so he just um. And then like I thought it was kind of funny because of his background and he didn't like how his people were treated or something When he was young. So as opposed to like killing people or beating them with a cat and eintails for like opposing, like working, you know, the diamond mines or in the timber industry or whatnot.

Speaker 2:

He would find them money They didn't have. Basically, i don't know. So I don't know how that worked out, but that was like the only thing. And then he kept trying to like prop himself up like as, like a woman's advocate and all these things for the people, and then he would turn around and like murder a bunch of folks and his initial Platforms were very humanitarian, of course is what, dick Peters, do they like find, just like Trump, you know, he found like a Portion of our community that felt like ignored and Whatever maybe they were.

Speaker 2:

You know, a lot of people get ignored, i don't know. But like, at the same time, and then you promise like I'm gonna fix everything. Look at me, do this, look at me, do that. And then they turn around and then they're just fucking everybody, like just bend over, guys, let's go from our sense, you know. So that's kind of what this guy did is he really did prop himself up as like a decent guy, although the whole time while he was working with his cousin, like I said he was, all he was about was dressing up in his military garb and Having medals and all these things that, like you know who? who the fuck awarded them to him? I don't know, but like you know, that was his big show. He was like He wanted to be like a fucking god or something. He really thought he was the hell of a guy and he wasn't. He wasn't much of anything.

Speaker 1:

Giving yourself a medal, like even to the extreme of giving yourself a nickname.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, i know, i know it's pretty bad, bro. I um, you know, i did want to say to you know, like this stuff, that that this guy like okay, so when they eventually ousted him in, like Operation Barracuda, i think it was called, and It was French led, which whatever, because after the fact it doesn't even matter this country's still like going in and out of civil war Constantly and you know it's just insane. A lot of the things that are going on in this country right now, for example, would be like just simply violent attacks against civilians for voting. That's one thing. There's like a lot of like. There's a coalition of patriots for change who attack major towns, preventing people from voting in the presidential election. So this group this also the group is allied to CPC committed widespread abuses, which I'm kind of unsure of that, including targeting civilians. Security forces and Russian mercenaries are in this country right now. The Wagner group, prior to the Ukraine invasion, was deep up in cars ass, as you could say. So like this is just ongoing and will never end, and Sometimes they just I don't know what to say. There are people Did you know the pig knees are from this area. Yeah, like here.

Speaker 2:

Hold on my fun facts about the Central African Republic, which is bordered by Chad, mind you. It remains one of the poorest countries in the world and is grappling with numerous human capital changes. The latest estimates, which date from 2020, showed that roughly 71% of the population is living below the international poverty line, basically on a dollar and ninety a day. So that's what they get. You know. The people of the Central African Republic range from the hunting and gathering force pygmy peoples, the Ca, to state forming groups such as the Zonda and I don't know how to say this one, but it's nezakara, i believe and prior to the arrival of Europeans in the late 19th century, distinctions between different groups were highly fluid, whereas now they're kind of, you know, more defined.

Speaker 2:

I'm guessing is what it's trying to say to me there. So, nonetheless, this country's fucked up, guys, africa is pretty screwed up, and anytime that you Think you're having a serious problem about your identity or what's going on in your world, or maybe even just some debt or having a bad day, just be glad you're not on the other end of Ocasa. All right, indeed, so, yeah, so what do you? so I guess, like, maybe we should take away from this. What's our lesson here, oh, and we should have a lesson. What's our lesson, i Be kind?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean that's always always a good way to go, Yeah don't.

Speaker 2:

Don't line your crown with the airman, I mean I'm in is evil. I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, i'm the airman's fault. Oh, creepy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, i don't know their weasels Eugh Paul is show anyway. So, hey, you know one thing to be said about all this. I'll try to end it on something. I just thought of this because it was something that I heard this week And then I actually had a talk with the lady Nicole about it real quick. I think it's pretty cool. So, you know, in comic books and or stories in general, like there's a bad guy and there's a hero, correct, right?

Speaker 2:

That's right, the hero is commonly orphaned and Has hardships, you know, typically their parents are dead or one thing or the other. I mean, it's something that's. It's definitely a shitty situation right now. The villain, the villain, similar background, orphaned, maybe Beat, i don't know.

Speaker 2:

Whatever is going on, same same, basically same background, right, and the only differences in these, these movies and stuff the villain will commonly have a scar on their face or have a limp or something that distinguishes a painful background from the superhero, who is usually Very dashing and such, right, you know. And so Where, where, where does this story differ? Why does the one become the other? right, well, it isn't about what happened to them, necessarily, you know, because pain can be different for everybody trauma, etc. It's actually more like this It's, um, what they choose, they chose to do with that pain, right, the one, the hero. He said, oh, that hurt so bad and it was so terrible.

Speaker 2:

I'm, i'm gonna spend the rest of my life making sure that never, ever, happens to anybody again, especially anybody defenseless, right? The villain, yeah, the villain, oh, so past, that happened to me. Fuck everybody, i'm gonna show the world How cool I am and how powerful I am and make everybody fucking suffer. All right, i don't know about you, but I think I'd rather be the hero, as corny as that sounds to some people, that That's better. I'd rather do that than eat children for real. No offense, lynch, big fan of brother Lynch, hung over here, but no.

Speaker 1:

Although I did. Once I was texting somebody and I just really started trying to eat Healthy and I was typing I've said to eat more fish and chickens and it tried to auto correct the children Oh, no, programming this shit.

Speaker 2:

The cops was Yeah, yeah, apparently his son Boca's a junior is actually lives in Paris right now and is a French socialite.

Speaker 2:

So oh thanks you know a lot of these people around this shit. If you were to ever to fight and follow up on much this after the fact, that did kind of. But if I was really dig Into this, i guarantee you, like most people that surrounded Boca's were just fine and I'll. I'm gonna tell you why. Because when he was originally ousted which is what I was kind of trying to get to, and then I just thought about the villain thing, but like he was sentenced to death, obviously for war crimes, yeah, well, his sentence was commuted from death and he was actually released from prison in 1993. Weird, he died not too much longer after. I think in 99 has been Boca's. It died. But think about all this shit this guy did and they just let him the fuck out. Yeah, and nobody ever talked about it again. You know why?

Speaker 1:

tell me why?

Speaker 2:

I don't know. I think my personal big mouth fucking opinion is because it's France's fault And they don't want, they don't, they wanted this guy to disappear. That's why you don't hear about some of these dictators, like Boca's it I mean, you, yeah, mean and like Gaddafi, there is too big on a world stage to, like you know, ignore, and they were in direct, like conflict with the US is mainly why we know a lot about them.

Speaker 1:

We heard about it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, i'm sure you know. I guess maybe in perspective, like that Boca's and maybe something that people have more knowledge on in France, I should reach out and ask. But you know, that could be a thing, but I feel like it was one of those deals. It was definitely tried to be swept under the rug and you know those countries over there, russia, just that's now there They're. They're like late showing up to the party Russia. Come on, guys, really the fucking game has changed. My friends like You don't go in and just wipe out whole peoples anymore and then set up a little little towns and call it. Call it. What do they say? Damn it, immigration or whatever the fuck. There's another word that they use for colonization settlers, send over settlers. That was a good term that people used to use a lot back in the day when Spain and France and everybody was Killing, everybody is they were settling the nation. Because you know, these people are savages and they have no fucking idea What they're doing by themselves, right anyway, yeah so much love everybody.

Speaker 2:

Fuck Boca's and everybody like him, indeed. Anyway, hope everybody has a good week, though, and we do have a support the show link below each episode, and if you have any thoughts on something that you know You maybe want us to get into, we're up for it, and we got plenty of ideas. There's never a lack of interesting things in this world. I want to remind everybody of that, right For sure. Yeah, like PK and red lodge.

Speaker 1:

Indeed. yeah, so be heading up there relatively soon, i know all right.

Speaker 2:

Well, anyway, i hope everybody has a good week.

Speaker 1:

Much love everybody.

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