I Tell Stories
I Tell Stories Podcast covers a wide range of topics discussed by Colt Draine and Owen "The Mic" McMichael. From the scourge on humanity of violent business hippies and Scott Baio to peculiar Serbian Mother's Day traditions,the boys offer their unique perspective. Revolutionary artists,legends of folklore and bizzare following of fast food items are just a few of the subjects touched on. I Tell Stories aims to bring attention to individuals and occerrences that are too interesting to be forgotten. Two long time friends who keep each other laughing give listeners their take on the world. Everyone has a story, these are ours and those of many others.
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Linguistics: Origins of English Phrases?
Ever wondered why Mr. Burns from The Simpsons answers the phone with "ahoy hoy"? Or what grim practices in Victorian England have to do with phrases we use today? This episode promises a captivating journey through the stories and historical quirks behind familiar expressions like "ahoy hoy," "Saved by the Bell," and "dead ringer." We also share a humorous tale about a bar in Seattle with a clever nod to AC Slater from Saved by the Bell as we explore these linguistic gems.
Join us as we uncover the intriguing legend of Josh Tatum, a deaf-mute from Boston who allegedly took advantage of a design flaw in the 1883 Liberty Head nickel to amass a small fortune. From coal miners pranking their peers with toilet cart chains to medieval practices of giving guests a cold piece of shoulder meat, our episode is packed with fascinating anecdotes that reveal the surprising origins of everyday phrases like "don't yank my chain" and "giving someone the cold shoulder."
We also delve into the darker theories behind expressions such as "cat's got your tongue," discussing the brutal practices of the English Navy and ancient Egyptian royalty. Throughout the episode, we entertain whimsical ideas for band names and reflect on how certain sayings become ingrained in our culture while others fade away. With a light-hearted yet informative tone, we wrap up with warm wishes for our listeners, leaving them with a smile and a newfound appreciation for the colorful history of the English language.
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ahoy hoy. Hey, what's up, bro? Um, hey, so today we're talking about english phrases and I was curious to your ahoy hoy. Uh, would that be? We never did look into the origins of ahoy hoy, did we? Or you actually know them, I think?
Speaker 2:oh gosh well I mean, it's the reason I do. It is a friend of the show, devin. Mr Burns did it on the Simpsons, but I think it was the first preferred greeting. I don't know. I know there's some debate about whether it was Graham Bell who actually invented it, but yeah, I think that was a very early comment instead of hello, ahoy, hoy. But yeah, it's really an adopted from Devin, from Mr Burns, so I deserve no credit. It's just figuring out the right people and the glory that is the Simpsons.
Speaker 1:Right. Well, I'm glad we uncovered that ITS mystery. You know what I'm saying. Its is short for I Tell Stories People and also you know you uncovered that for them to learn and know that you're just not a fraud, my friend, you know checking your sources putting it out there, right Right Right, from the get my friend.
Speaker 1:So basically, the tone of this, or whatever you want to call it, it's a warm, bright color. No, I'm just joking, but the goal of this episode is to explore some common English phrases and their origins, whatever they may be Correct.
Speaker 2:Yes, such as also a show from the era of the Simpsons, but much lower class. I don't know if that's the right word, but yeah, not nearly as epic, but Saved by the Bell. Do you know the origin of that?
Speaker 1:I do not actually Zach, I guess running In.
Speaker 2:Victorian England, apparently, it was common enough for people to be buried after being mistakenly pronounced dead, oh my gosh. And so they began to equip there's a string in the coffin that if someone woke up and was like oh shit, no, I don't want to be buried alive, they would ring the bell. And thus it has evolved to essentially mean avoiding something unpleasant, to catastrophic. Narrowly is now what the phrase is taken as, but it literally was like you would be saved from being buried alive by ringing your cosmic bell.
Speaker 2:So we're off to a fun. Start here, folks.
Speaker 1:Yeah I, uh, I have. I have seen the inventions where they had the little different ways of telling if people were awake. There was something I did see that had to do with like breath, like if you could feel the breath like from a tube or something. I don't know, but could you imagine this? Because I didn't look into that all the way and I'm glad you did. I didn't know about the saved by the bell thing, but I do know from somewhere and something I've learned, that dead ringer also has to do with that, but it has to do with yes, yeah, oh, you do. Okay, I want to. I don't know, dude, so you gotta tell me. I want to. I don't know, dude, so you got to tell me, because I remember it but I don't know. So I want to be refreshed.
Speaker 2:Oh, I just read that that was what came from there, which now I thought meant you know, someone would be a dead ringer. They looked very much alike, right, someone else they're exactly. That became a thing, but I just thought that it did evolve from the Saved by the Bell deal, yeah, geez.
Speaker 1:Not the college years. Kelly Kapowski Kelly Kapowski, that name is just funny to say and Zack and Slater, slater bro.
Speaker 2:Oh, and the last time I hung out with the dearly departed MC Straight Budge, we went to a dive bar in Seattle that had a picture you know hand-drawn or painted the picture of AC Slater, and then it was spelled out in like the Slayer you know their style of spelling Slayer but it just said Slater. Oh man, yeah, that's epic bro. That's an interesting side note too. No, on one of our tangents as usual podcastlandia.
Speaker 1:Yes, indeed. Hey, I'm kind of embarrassed because I think I got this wrong. Like I almost thought what you meant initially by English phrases was like British ones or something, so I'm just going to throw this one out there and hope it fits the episode. Apparently, a common English phrase from like the UK is arse over tit.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I've heard ass over tea kettle as well.
Speaker 1:Okay, so arse over tit. I just was like what, okay, so you've heard this.
Speaker 2:My grandma used to say that the dog, the spaz of a golden retriever, would go ass over tea kettle when he'd run so fast. He'd flip over and his head would roll down and his ass would go over. So I don't know if that's a.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, so in the Cambridge from Cambridgeorg is my source it means it's a rude phrase meaning to lose your balance suddenly and fall over, basically. So, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, so this comes from RC Varsi, apparently, which was days back to at least the mid-16th century, which was days back to at least the mid-16th century. It's described as a motion of clumsiness to fall arsey-farsey, ie head over heels. And then there's actually like a pretty cool little medieval, like I want to say. It looks like a flyer or something, but I guess it's a cover for a poem where it's called the World Turned Upside Down and it's the first term, first time that the term was used in a Great Jimmy Cliff song as well.
Speaker 2:RC Varsi no.
Speaker 1:World Upside Down. Oh, okay, my bad, I was like what? Anyway, this is.
Speaker 2:RC Varsi might be related to Marcy Darcy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so the first time it was used in literature was in this poem, I guess, and it's from 1646. Printed for John Smith. He must have been the patron by TJ, tj. That's it, way to go, tj. It's pretty cool graphic guys. I'll have to put it up there, anyway. So I guess, moving on. Hopefully the rest of my stuff fits in man. I was confused, so I guess, moving on. Hopefully the rest of my stuff fits in man.
Speaker 2:I was confused. Apparently, this one comes from ancient Greece, but spill the beans. What you know? What that?
Speaker 1:refers to.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, I like snitching kind of huh, Right you spilled beans yeah, yeah, revealing a secret, but for voting purposes. Beans were used in ancient Greece. For voting purposes. Beans were used in ancient Greece, and white beans meant approval and dark beans meant disapproval. And if you know, the beans were spilled. It accidentally revealed the vote count, which was supposed to be confidential, and so that evolved into Spilling the beans.
Speaker 1:Oh, those sons of bitches. Oh, that's crazy. I would have never thought Feel my thunder.
Speaker 2:This one was a surprise to me, oh what I want to know, this. That's a good one, okay, and you know. Basically it means like someone taking credit for what you've done or you feel they're taking credit Apparently. They're taking credit Apparently playwright John Dennis, who introduced a thunder machine for his play in 1709 that was not well received. Another theater production went ahead with a thunder machine, not consulting him or asking for permission. Oh no, and apparently he exclaimed they will not let my play run, but they steal my thunder.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's fucking. I like that. I mean, I don't like that. That happened to him, but, wow, I also throughout this. I'm like man, what would a thunder machine look like?
Speaker 2:You know, all these things go through your head 1709, he's ahead of his time Very much so Some 80s butt rock probably. I would have loved to yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, they really just need like a piece of sheet metal and a hammer, right? Isn't that what they used in the old school radio?
Speaker 2:Yeah. I didn't really think into the engineering of said machine, but it's sound, bro, I'm into it.
Speaker 1:And also, just you know, let your mind wander. What sound, bro, I'm into it. And also, just you know, let your mind wander. What if thor built a thunder machine? What could it be? I don't know guys out there, out there in this world who might just subscribe to our show. Check us out, pitlocksupplycom. We got t-shirts, all right, anyway. Um, hey, you, we, we both have this one. I'm almost positive of it, so I'm just gonna run.
Speaker 1:Uh, caught red-handed guys, right, I don't think it has anything to do with, you know, painting your neighbor's barn, right, I don't think that's it. So, likening to a murder, with their hands red with the victim's blood. The phrase to be taken with red hand is where it kind of originally comes from. So basically, to be caught red-handed is to be caught like in a murder situation. It's from Scotland in the 15th century. Let's see here uh, the first thing I that they found where they're like directly relating it to anything used in literature. Sir walter scott's van ho 1819 contains the first recorded use of taken red-handed, which is the like basically old english version of caught red-handed. But yeah, it's caught in the act of murder. Basically is what it comes from. It wasn't me, because there was those murderous Scots.
Speaker 2:That's just how that, no, but I'm pretty sure I did see an old English law, though that was the only way you could prove someone had butchered an animal illegally was to literally catch them with the animal's blood still on their hands. So yeah, was to literally catch them with the animal's blood still on their hands.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I'm looking here. Yeah, that book was kind of the first print of it and then also it helped the expression become more common and I almost feel, like you know, when you look at, like the UK in general or whatever, but like you know, like the River Thames, right, it's almost like they conjugated their verbs, but it's English. Does that make sense? Am I doing that, saying that right kind of? I feel like I am, and so old English must have been very much so that way, and then as our language shifted into how it is now, because English we speak very different from almost all languages, I believe I don't know, but I'm pretty sure in the fact that we don't conjugate our verbs and things of that nature, so like, maybe that's why back then it was taken red-handed or whatever instead of cotton, or maybe taken was just more proper. I don't know. What do you think, Owen? Am I high? I can't tell.
Speaker 2:Probably so proper. I don't know. What do you think going? Am I high? I can't tell. Probably so, but I do know. I just hung up a photograph. I got to the river thames when I was in london.
Speaker 1:I hung it up at the shop today right, yeah, but over here in america, though, like where you're at, you got the yellowstone river. It isn't the river yellowstone, that's all saying Right, and that goes for all that shit over there too. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:They're both smelly yeah. I mean they're lovely, it's cool. I love rivers, but they both stink in some places.
Speaker 1:Have dead bodies in catfish.
Speaker 2:Methamphetamine waste, yeah, so I don't know if there's catfish in the Thames, but maybe, probably, they're everywhere.
Speaker 1:Catfish are one of those things, my friend. Hey, you know, not the air. Yeah, yeah, the sugar beet factory, the uh, um, yeah, yeah, alright, so I got another one. I don't know where you're at. My friend, I'm gonna roll with another one, this one's kind of you know there's a little more to it. So you, my friend, I'm gonna roll with another one. This one, this one's kind of kind of you know there's a little more to it.
Speaker 1:So, uh, you ever heard that, like you know, I'm just joshing around or just joshing you yeah. Yeah, it's like you know, I feel like it was like a thing that was said, you know, in our era. But you know, then I also was thinking it's also one of those ones that I think I picked up from a parent who probably picked it up because it just sounds like one of those things, right. So, the origin of just Joshin, the truth, basically, that I feel is that the term is derived from the name of a famous. Actually, I got two versions, bro, and I want you to pick one.
Speaker 1:I think I have the one in my head, so I'm sorry if I already kind of ruined that for everybody, but the term is actually derived from the name of a famous American humorist and you're going to like this, I feel Josh Billings, who was born Henry Wheeler Shaw, in the 1800s. Billings was known for his humorous writings and lectures, which sometimes used intentional misspellings and malpropisms to get his point across, you know, kind of being goofy like a Weird Al kind of guy, I think, or something. His popularity in the 19th century led to people using Josh as a verb, meaning to make fun of or to engage in lighthearted teasing, and thus, my friends, the term Joshing was born.
Speaker 2:Whoa, that's awesome.
Speaker 1:Yeah, very interesting. I like that one, and I looked into this guy, real guy. You can look him up. He was known as a humorist, so it was pretty cool. But in the 1800s is how far back that fucking term goes. I would have never thought that. And the fact that it's used to the same effect is kind of amazing, because almost all You'd say it ain't Nathan New. Oh, nathan, that's our era, though.
Speaker 2:Nathan Nice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for sure, and I don't think anybody uses that shit except for us anymore anyway. But yeah, I thought that was pretty cool. Nicotine, huh, nicotine, yeah, I know, right, right, right. So here's the other version of this, my friend. Here's the other one I found. And I just thought this would kind of be Because, you know, we look online, guys, people out there, and sometimes we don't fact check, right, right. So I just wanted to give you two examples.
Speaker 1:The Liberty Head, or the V-Nickel, was released in 1883. This is a pretty famous coin, I believe. The denomination was marked by a large V. On the reverse, the word sense was nowhere to be found. The three-cent piece at the time was labeled in the same way, with a large Roman numeral three and no mention of sense.
Speaker 1:The story goes basically that this josh tatum fellow, uh, he was a deaf mute from boston and he, um, kind of one day just realized that these coins were the same size and the only thing different in them was the color. One was gold and one was silver. Well, he had a jeweler friend who was also like a pawn shop guy. So we're talking seedy folks, I feel, guys, you know, you know in Boston, in Massachusetts, I feel Anyway. So at the end of the story is they started plating these fucking coins and what they would do, this guy would do, is he would go around like local shops and buy like these little five-cent cigars and then he'd give them $4.95 back because these things look so similar. But they didn't change anything on it but the color. They electroplated it with gold in a way or something Right, and then so like the people would just see the color and see the Roman numeral and automatically give them a change for a five. And he didn't get caught until years later or something like that, or about six months later actually.
Speaker 1:I think is where my notes say Yep, and anyway. But he had amassed a fortune of like a couple hundred thousand dollars back then and this is in the Damn yeah, so in 1883. So anyway, they say that that's where you know the term joshing came from, because you know he was like just fooling them. He didn't like, like I said, he was like he was asking them for that change back. He just gave them the piece and they would return it. And they would return it based on the fact that it was gold and not silver and not the like with the writing on it basically, anyway.
Speaker 1:So when I did look into that people, it's kind of a cool one and all, but like, at the end of the day, that one is false I feel, because you can't find this guy's name in any sort of documentation and actually it was a very popular scam of the era and they recalled that nickel almost immediately, or the three cent or whatever the fuck it was, and changed the whole way. They kind of did that sort of currency so that I feel was a fraud. But you're going to see that one a lot. So the real one is the Josh Billings. That's my determination, because if you look him up and go into it it all makes sense. Do you have anything?
Speaker 2:else there bro. Was he ever in the Billings and filling himself?
Speaker 1:I don't know. He probably was at some point, my friend, you know. Once I learned out that that wasn't his real name and it was something else, because at first I was like, holy fuck, I wonder if he's related to Frederick Billings. Maybe we'll make a whole episode out of it. Nah, didn't happen. Stage name I don't mean to be yanking your chain, do you have that one? I don't. Oh, this is a good one, I feel anyway. So, anyway, don't yank my chain.
Speaker 1:Apparently, people think this is fucking racist. It's not, guys, don't buy into that shit either. There are a couple out there that do have racist origins, that are on point, but this is not one of them. Where this actually comes from is coal miners. Okay, and back in the day, and to this extent they probably have different stuff going on, I would think. But anyway, coal miners back in the day, they would have a wagon that was sent down deep, deep, deep in the mine, right To use the bathroom, okay, and because you come on, these guys are like miles fucking deep and you also want them just crapping where they're working. That's fucked up, right. So so they, obviously they sent the bathroom down to them on this cart, and I seen one of these carts, okay, and I might use it as the episode header.
Speaker 1:I don't know the artwork, I'm unsure, but it looks like it, so anyway, and it has two toilet seats and it's like. It's this like train little cart. You know that they would down and the way that these people would stop it and let them know that they were used in the bathroom was and they call them honey carts, by the way, and I don't know. I didn't bother looking into it, but I noticed that there's like honey pots for porta-potties. Why is it honey? Like we need to look at it. That sounds very not-to-like honey. But yeah, I know, but it's a thing. I've seen it on multiple bathroom-type things.
Speaker 1:Anything you take a shit in, apparently you can call a honey, something or other, so like, but anyway. So these carts, you know they send down the mine and they fucking put the chain under the wheel to stop it, you know. And like a braking system like extra brakes, kind of deal, because all you know, and like a braking system like extra brakes, kind of deal, and because all they were doing is lowering it up and down, kind of shit, and whenever you stopped it you could use the bathroom, finish, get off and go back to work, and then they continue to pull it up. Well, the term comes from is when people would be taking shits on these things. Their buddies, who think they're fucking hilarious, would yank the chain out and then they would shit all over themselves or whatever you know, get crap all over them. And that's where the term yeah, don't yank my chain comes from.
Speaker 2:That's a well. I could have lived out my existence without knowing that, but thank you for sharing come on, that's kind of crazy, isn't that a weird one? So that's yeah not funny. That's like those people that do yeah shit where it's like that's not a funny thing.
Speaker 1:Right like Steve-O and people like that Jackass, yeah I don't like that either.
Speaker 2:But on a lighter note, how about butter someone up?
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm ready, let's go.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, this day and age basically means to flatter somebody or be trying to gain their favor. Just inflating their favor, right, just inflating their ego, or whatever. Apparently, it's an ancient Indian custom to gain favor with the gods. Oh, my Balls of butter would be hurled at statues of said gods. Why? Because butter is great, I don't know. I mean, butter is delicious, but like I don't want it flung at me, especially by you know, right, well, yeah, especially. But I don't have anyone that's trying to gain my favor by throwing butter at me. I don't think he'd be happy about that at all. No, I don't, it sounds like a mess. Yeah, yeah, exactly, matt is a hatter. You probably know this one.
Speaker 2:Yeah enlighten me. So I mean, it's mostly thought that the Matt Hatter from Alice in Wonderland and I think I was under that impression as a child that Hatters would the 19th century, would use mercury, right, and yeah, neurological disease, all kinds of fun stuff, and they would go just kooky, you know, right, yeah, and so that remained mad as a hatter. Yeah, no, I get it Something that's acting erratically or something crazy Mercury poisoning.
Speaker 1:yeah, well, they used to. Here's what it was. My friend is that there was something in the process of making those beaver pelt hats that you know the like top hat like the hatter's wearing, and they used mercury. Yeah, and they used mercury in the band. I feel in like the band of the beaver, yeah, so like it was the beaver pelt hats that were and they were not those were like beaver, was everything to guys back then. Guys, well, I mean to fucking, yeah, I get it, but nonetheless so yeah.
Speaker 2:We'll see how that lands when I'm editing Donde es Grey.
Speaker 1:House.
Speaker 2:Don't need to find how do hey people in Mexico. I just don't know Grey Casa something Right. I don't know gray Casa something Right.
Speaker 1:I don't know, do Mexican doorbells sound the same? I need to know before I do this. Anyway, nonetheless, dang, what an episode. Time's flying, owen. We didn't even like reminisce. How about Go ahead?
Speaker 2:Oh, you can't have your cake and eat it too. Okay, of course, everybody's heard that.
Speaker 1:Right, you can't have your cake and eat it too. Okay, of course Everybody's heard that, Right?
Speaker 2:Well, in the first recorded version in 1546, it actually has eat before have, Hmm, which I mean? People that have discussed this. I guess some say that that makes it clearer, Right, I mean, obviously, once you eat the cake, you no longer have it, Correct? But Noah? Interesting side note eat the cake, you no longer have it, Correct, but Noah? Interesting side note about the Unabomber on this one, the what, what, the Unabomber, yeah, but that's an old. He used that and the old one where putting uh, allegedly I didn't read his manifesto but put eat before have and in some way, which, yeah, again, I should have dove deeper into this, but it helped to identify him apparently. Oh, wow, that he's that in his manifesto and, yeah, so tasty bite of history, folks, yeah, manifesto.
Speaker 1:He got caught in.
Speaker 2:Montana too right. Yes, way up in the cuts in the Califo. Yeah for sure. Yeah, in Montana too right. Way up in the cuts in the Cali-Saw?
Speaker 1:Yeah for sure. Yeah, he manifested his destiny. My friend, let's see. Hell of a guy. Yeah, heck of a haircut, I don't know. Nonetheless, nonetheless, I feel like I actually had far more than I thought. I'm just gonna touch on this real briefly and I'm not gonna give all my examples.
Speaker 1:When pigs fly, that's a pretty good one, right? The origin of the idiom when pigs fly, of course, scottish. Some believe the idiom comes from a Scottish proverb that may have been in use for hundreds of years. In 1616, john Whittle's short Dictionary for Young Beginners, which it's spelt in Old English a bit. So it's got a lot of whys and shit people. If you see that it's actually the real deal. It includes the proverb pigs fly with their tails forward, which was used as a sarcastic response to overly optimistic statements like oh, when pigs fly, you know what I'm saying. So that is uh, and there was some other ones. Uh, germany. They didn't give a date and it wasn't enough, so that was the most the one that makes the most sense to me. I'm I was gonna give you more examples, but I'm not going to because that was the one with more documentation and earlier. So there you go, scott's. Another thing you guys did, apparently your ancestry, my American, scottish friend.
Speaker 2:How about giving someone the cold shoulder? Is that where that came from? No, I do not, and it now just means ignoring someone Right? Apparently, in medieval times, if guests overstayed their welcome, it was common for the host to politely let them know by giving them a cold piece of shoulder meat to be a beef, pork or mutton, which, yeah, especially like cold mutton. Sounds like a like yeah, get the fuck out of my house or my castle or my hut or whatever it may be, but Is it a British emo?
Speaker 1:band.
Speaker 2:Cold mutton. Anyway, cold mutton it is. Now it is Also Left lane. Truckers Should be a Country, oh no Country band. You know the trucks, the semi trucks that drive in the fast lane and sit there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we decided that left lane truckers Bump and Bob Seger, yeah, and then the last here I am on the road again.
Speaker 2:Here's a, since we can't have an episode without a dark turn taken. You know, cat's got your tongue Okay Now. I mean somebody who's yeah, totally. And you know, cat's got your tongue Okay Now. It means somebody who's unexplainably silent or just, you know, doesn't speak. There are two theories on this one, and I did not look into them, but they're both rather gruesome. One of them and I think you know more about this with your pirate knowledge, but the English Navy a punishment they would use involved a whip referred to as the cat's 09 tail Right, and the pain was so awful that they were left speechless. Yeah, you know the victims, the punishees.
Speaker 1:Right, thus cat got your tongue, yeah, I know that makes sense. I mean, thus cat got your tongue, yeah, no, that's. Uh, that makes sense. I mean the cat of nine tails, like back in those days, uh, the Navy would have been the one who was doing that to you, or even merchant ships, bro. You know they would do that to their indentured servants, whoever was on board, because a captain could just do whatever they wanted, right and like, especially in the Navy, because most of the people they enlisted they didn't really enlist. They did what they called press game and they'd go to like poor areas in like Scotland and England and all these places and get people drunk and then they'd talk them into going on a ship or thump them over the head with one of those fucking thumper things you know, you see, cops have in England. I think that's what I imagine, anyway. Anyway, so.
Speaker 1:Billy Club. I believe it's the yeah, like for real a Billy Club, yeah, something like that. And anyway.
Speaker 2:No, they call them bobbies, so shouldn't it be a Bobby Club?
Speaker 1:But anyway, I don't know. That sounds like a certain kind of bar as well. Nonetheless, I'm going to go move forward with the story More, yeah, anyway, so like the point Fuck, oh yeah. So, like on these ships, they would just like they would press, gang these guys and so they'd wake up the next day with a hangover and they'd be like out in the middle of the ocean with no option to go home and they were literally, if they did something wrong, they did a lot of fucked up shit to them and their lives were not worth much. And that goes for the same for, like the East India Company ships and stuff like that. Like their sailors were treated barely better than the slaves that they were holding typically. So it wasn't. You know, it's really really gruesome, man. The classism back then really was shining through more because they were able to do that kind of violence openly, whereas now they just are sneaky about it because it's still their people. The richer people are and the poorer we get. That shit will come back. Sorry, never mind.
Speaker 2:I once woke up in Colorado and forgot that I was in a different state than I lived in, but that's a lot better than being in the middle of the ocean and having been, quote-unquote, enlisted in the British Navy. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:That's real, that's fucked up. Shit man yeah.
Speaker 2:The other theory on what cat has your tongue, which what I was reading. It said ancient Egyptian kings, which I would think would be, weren't they always pharaohs? Yeah, I feel so way, egyptian royalty? Uh, those that lied to them.
Speaker 1:they would cut their tongues out and then feed them to cats well, maybe, maybe somebody did and I know cats were a big deal in, like egyptian right, but here's where I'll poke the hole in that one, I think anyway. Um, just when I think about it, because this is an english phrase and like that's ancient egypt, you know. So, like this, you know, unless, like they, I mean, they weren't doing that when we were speaking english, right, like I mean back when there were pharaohs, honky spoke lat and like whatever Right, but evolved through the years.
Speaker 2:It could have, you know, okay, yeah, possible, I guess something that's like to spill the beans was. They probably didn't even say that in ancient Greece. It's just when, yeah, somebody Right, yeah, I guess Somebody read about that or whatever it became. You know, it's hard to say where any of these actually a somebody, somebody read about that, or whatever. It's hard to say where any of these actually somebody came up with. But then for it to catch on it had to take a while. It wasn't just like oh shoot, that's the Unlike. Again. A friend of the show, devin, he would say if someone did something particularly egregious, he would say you shall smoke a fiery turd in hell. Oh my God, that hasn't caught on, because that's a very descriptive, you know Well, it might now On that note people.
Speaker 1:I hope everybody out there has a good rest of their day or evening, whatever it may be.
Speaker 2:Much love everybody, thank you.
