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90’s Mistakes: Oops There It Is
Remember the days when you couldn't leave the house without your Tamagotchi, and acid wash jeans were a fashion staple? Join us as we take a nostalgic trip back to the 90s, a decade that many of us hold dear. We reminisce about the fashion trends that have made comebacks, laugh at the TV shows that missed the mark, and debate whether the boy band craze was a hit or a miss. We also pay tribute to the icons that defined the era, from the Wu-Tang Clan to Salma Hayek.
Who could forget the wacky and often questionable moments of 90s pop culture? Relive the shock of George Michael's coming out, the antics of Geraldo Rivera, and the unforgettable baby mama dramas on Maury Povich. We chuckle at the inexplicable success of MC Snow’s "Informer" and cringe at the cinematic disaster "Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot." From Reebok pumps to Billy Ray Cyrus' infamous mullet, we explore the wild and unforgettable mistakes that made the 90s a truly unique time.
Before we wrap up, we shift gears to discuss the fashion and toy fails that defined the decade, from parachute pants to flip-up sunglasses. We also give a special shout-out to our listeners in Missoula, Montana, and share some quirky facts about Barbie. Finally, we tackle the legacy of Puff Daddy, his overwhelming presence in the music scene, and the trends that marked the decline of a beloved era. Despite the criticisms, we end on an optimistic note, highlighting the positive changes emerging in the music industry. Tune in for a laugh-filled and candid discussion that will take you back to the days of swag weed and Wesley Snipes' fashion influence.
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ahoy, ahoy, ah. What's up, bro? How's uh the day treating you, my friend, on this very um nostalgic episode, I guess in a sense yeah yeah, sort of yeah. I mean like everybody well you could say it was a good day.
Speaker 1:Oh cute. Hey, you know it's a funny thing, right? I remember my mom, you know, growing up, because you know it was just me and her and shit. But I always remember her saying stuff like, oh my God, I wore that in high school, like when we'd be in Kmart or some shit. You know what I'm saying, like the old styles coming back, whatever it may be and I don't know, acid wash jeans, that's 80s. But uh, point being is is things can be cyclical, but there's also things that kind of are just it's the era right like that.
Speaker 1:That 10 years period or whatever the, that decade specifically spawned this thing and it to me it seems like with the youth and with you know, a a lot of us, obviously because we're from the 90s, you know the 90s can't go wrong. Everything's a hit again. All the 90s shit's back and it's been going strong. It's not just like the brief period that we had back in the day, where the 70s was pop for about a year. The 90s has been back for about five, six years. Bro, it's crazy. I mean, what do you?
Speaker 2:think, and let's preface this episode by saying the 90s is a no less than sacred decade. Decalted myself and, I think, anyone roughly our age, it introduced us from everything from the Wu-Tang Clan to Salma Hayek. But there's a few 90s mistakes. Yeah, there are.
Speaker 1:Oops, there it is. Oh, never again on these ones. I hope I'll take a lead off. I'm going to be the lead off batter on this one, just for the hell of it. I don't know why. 1996, okay, pretty crazy year. You know, pac died, stuff like that. Those are big 90s years. I mean there's more stuff to the year than that. You know, pac died, stuff like that. Those were big 90s years. I mean there's more stuff to the year than that, I believe. But nonetheless, do you remember ever seeing those little robot, or they were like little keychains, you know, and that little screen on them and they were like a pet that kids were taking care of and just obsessed?
Speaker 2:with.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, this was a big deal, man. They called them Tamagotchis and they were pocket-sized digital pets. Okay, they were a handful to have, apparently, and the reasoning behind it is because they literally never shut off. You couldn't shut it off and, if you like, stopped feeding this digital pet. They would die. Stuff like that.
Speaker 2:Jesus.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it was supposed to be like right, these little pixelated creatures. You know they was supposed to be like right, these little pixelated creatures. You know they were supposed to be uh, uh, teaching kids stuff you know what I mean, or whatnot, but they actually got so crazy that they had to ban them from certain places like schools. And to me, why I'm like 90s is what you got wrong, because it's like the first beginning, the beginning of the first things that were like attaching our kids to screens. I thought so I didn't mean to get too deep on this 90s things you got wrong.
Speaker 2:But those damn little Tamagotchi pets, those were terrible, all right, you know what is also a drain on society, although I have not seen said program that debuted in 1996. Upn's comedy Homeboys in Outer.
Speaker 1:Space, what I don't remember, that I'm not making that up.
Speaker 2:I read the synopsis of it and yeah, they have like a lowrider spaceship and it's just all kinds of wrong spaceship and it's just all kinds of wrong.
Speaker 1:So is upn, like I know. I've seen stuff from it, but I just do not recall that one.
Speaker 2:My friend, I am down. No, I didn't either, nor did I recall. This was earlier in the decade. That did get a lot right. But we're focusing on what it didn't. Uncle Buck, the TV show with no, john Candy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, fuck that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, how is that going?
Speaker 1:to work. No, come on, oh, come on. And if you haven't seen Uncle Buck, you right. No, I'm just joking, we're sorry. Yeah, we're sorry because that's a good, that's a man, that is some nostalgia. All right, right, stamp. I feel like Mr Ernie would be saying that's a goat. If you're listening out there, mr Ernie, shout out Nonetheless. Okay, hey, I'm just going to throw one out there. Boy bands yes, Did that stick on? The negative Epic sale.
Speaker 2:Also.
Speaker 1:I didn't do a lot of research on that because, for one, I don't want to look it up, for two, they're getting all kinds of odd odds or ads and offers. Oh my God, NSYNC volume 23. Yeah, no, here's the thing, though.
Speaker 2:You know what Mr Ernie would say about that. We just can't repeat it on air.
Speaker 1:Yeah, mr Ernie's legit. I don't know this guy, but anybody that's named Mr Ernie. And I don't know this guy, but anybody that's named Mr Ernie. And he's an essay from Colorado somewhere. Uh, that you're good in my book dog, mr Ernie's part of the family. I know he's an. I tell a story. He's a family member I just have yet to meet him, I'm not gonna indeed yeah, so hey, uh, damn, uh damn.
Speaker 1:Where was I at here? What were we talking about? Boy bands, uh, boy band. I never thought that would happen on this show, guys. Okay, for one all right yeah, let's talk brazcast.
Speaker 1:I'm just joking. I have to do this, fuck, okay. Um, nonetheless, boy bands, you know, here's why I didn't even want to look, another reason why I didn't want to dig into it or anything. If you really think about it, since recorded music has been kind of around, there's been boy bands. I mean, it's a thing, it's like teen bop bullshit, right. So like true the beat, okay, the beatles you know for bucktoothy guys from you know british fools or what you know, the mop haircuts you know as bad as the bull cuts were.
Speaker 2:Oh no, frosted tips are yeah, far worse.
Speaker 1:Frosted tips are a 90s thing. That was disgusting.
Speaker 2:I thought almost exclusively a boy band 90s thing. I didn't know any. None of my homies were wearing that. I am a white kid from the suburbs.
Speaker 1:No, yeah, I know I played a lot of basketball and other than that, the people I I hung around would not have frosted said tips. Nonetheless, okay. So with the boy bands thing, but yeah, so like the Beatles boy band, there's been boy bands throughout the decades. I mean it's just kind of the thing. I feel like you can even classify the Beach Boys as that. It's just that I feel that it's a 90s thing because it's really when there was like this weirdo takeover of this shit. I did see some shit on this. It kind of upset me, I don't know. Tell me if I need your opinion on Mick Michael as an American male. Okay, do you think Boyz II Men is considered a boy band?
Speaker 2:I wouldn't go that low because they are actually talented. It's not my cup of tea, but it's clear that there's a lot of skill there. I mean, yeah, again, it's like maybe now, like when that came out and I was just starting to be testosterone-filled, cracking straight out of Compton, I wasn't trying to hear all this emotional lovey-dovey shit. I'd appreciate it probably a lot more now and again. Respect their skills. So I wouldn't call them a boy band Just out of respect. And they're on Fresh Prince.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for real right. Probably the last great vocalist group of their kind. I would say Last Motown, great. I don't consider them that shit at all. Fuck you people for putting them on any of these lists or things that I did actually look up. I lied, guys. I did have to kind of see who was on there and they did come up, so I apologize.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, they're totally yeah. Boy band to me screams like absolutely Not even like a lack of talent, but like a black hole vacuum Of talent. Like it would make anyone that they're in the same room with not even like a lack of talent, but like a black hole vacuum of talent. Like it would make anyone that they're in the same room with ultimately less talented for the rest of their existence.
Speaker 1:Right, joey Fatone, you know kind of opinion is hey, Joey Fatone, if you want to come on the show, talk about this. I'm with it. All right, he's in a boy band.
Speaker 2:What about another 90s Joey, Joey Lawrence. Oh my god, I forgot about Joey Lawrence. Actually, You're lucky. I'm sorry I brought it up. I never watched Blossom, Okay that's, but all I remember is he's the guy that just said whoa and then he had like a singing career. Quote unquote. Shut the fuck up, he had an acting career. No, I remember seeing a video Unless. This is just like a nightmare.
Speaker 1:You want to hear something funny and I don't know if this may be funny to anybody else who listens to this, but I don't even know if you're going to know the answers. But I like actually for a second, when you first said that I had that Joey confused with the Joey from Friends, because you know, I didn't really. I remember Blossom, you know, but those are two different people, guys, just so you're aware. But I do. Now I can remember the whoa and the blue flannel, right, and like the, was he the big brother of Blossom?
Speaker 2:Something like that I think you'd have, like the flannel, like tied around his waist, which is another 90s mistake. It is Along with fanny packs. It keeps with fanny packs on. The keeps saying on the head around your waist, like no guys around your hyper color t-shirt yeah, fanny packs, they already made a comeback and so did hyper color.
Speaker 1:You know, it actually is like it was a thing I don't. Now I feel like in my area which I do think we're not paris or anything, guys, but the west coast, as far west as I am in portland and all that's pretty good gauge of things to come a lot of earthy tones right now is what I'm seeing, so that's kind of nice. I slide right into that because I usually don't change actually what I wear. I don't really I haven't. I still wear Chuck Taylors and Dickies.
Speaker 2:Gentlemen and women, whoever is listening, children as well. I feel you too, because it's something about outdated, like Timberlands it's like no, do not go tell any any classic rapper anyone. Yeah, they're just Tims are like at all times, that's yeah yeah yeah, that's like saying like a sports jacket would go out of style. It's like for the right occasion.
Speaker 1:Tims are right for any occasion right, something like a bolo tie, just like a bolo tie you will catch me'm just joking.
Speaker 2:You will catch me in Tim's forever. You will not catch me near. I prefer not to be in a town that sells bolo ties, but that's probably possible. Yeah, exactly. Anyway, I'm moving on. You think Ricky Martin would like bolo ties Because he's another 90s mistake.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he totally would. The funniest thing about the 90s is people still tried to pretend they weren't gay. Okay, guys, like there was. Like who else was there? But he was an 80s singer. Was it Bryan Adams? I don't know? Oh, george Michaels. He came out in the 90s and everybody was shocked. Yes, I don't think.
Speaker 2:Bryan Adams. Sorry, bryan Adams. Bryan Adams, sorry.
Speaker 1:Not that there's anything wrong with this, there's another 90, yeah but Bri Bri, hey, brian Adams, brian Adams, friend of the show, guys. Friend of the show, bri Bri. Sorry about that, not now maybe. Oh yeah, I'd be mad. I'd be mad. Remind me of what he sings one day. So anyway, the other thing that I thought was kind of a 90s mistake. It actually started in 87, but I don't believe it caught fire until the 90s. And it's actually a person as well. I'm sorry people. Geraldo Rivera.
Speaker 2:Okay, ooh, how did I neglect that one? Maybe?
Speaker 1:blocked it from memory. I didn't even like dude, I didn't even bother doing notes on this guy because you know he's just nuts. He looks like a mustache mustache twirling villain to begin with, and or luigi's uh weird cousin. Okay, on mario, that's what this guy looks like. Um, he's very like just nuts, is he not? Like? He was the original kind of shock talk show. I feel so um pre-Springer right.
Speaker 2:And Maury Kovach too, before Maury Weren't Springer and Maury about the same time, correct.
Speaker 1:But Maury, actually, when Maury was cracking and hey, you know, I don't know, is that something the 90s got wrong too Is these fucking crazy talk shows like that, because it turned into some shit. My friend Ricky got rest that was his thing when we both got kicked out of school. He never did end up returning, but we used to always watch Maury and I'd come back at like lunch, smoke weed with him and then head out and shit, and every time it's a new baby mama reveal and there'd be like nine guys on stage and I'm like really, bro, like this is fucking ridiculous and I'm sure that type of stuff still exists. But maury povich pioneered that guys, he's a yeah heck of a guy. I don't know, but yeah, sorry, I got off on a tangent there for all the robera.
Speaker 1:He actually was famous and this might have been like 90 or something, but he used to be a um, this is off top of the head, by the way real fast. He was like some sort of uh news reporter or whatever, right, and he made some big documentary about a mental hospital in, uh, new york and then he made a bunch of big claims and that's how he kind of got big and then also he was famous for like, opening ala capone's vault, I feel, and then there was nothing inside of it. I think that was another. So those are things he's done for I want anyway, what, uh? What else you got, bro, before we stop? I mean, I've been just rambling about some. So, anyway, enough of all those shit. What do you got? Yeah, I know you got some interesting stuff here, my friend.
Speaker 2:I would be shocked if you forgot this 90s mistake, mc Snow.
Speaker 1:Oh, my Informa.
Speaker 2:A precursor to a much later whack rapper, also from toronto. But I'll leave that alone. I won't. But yes, that was definitely. But you know, that was number one.
Speaker 1:That informer was number one for at least some yeah, nobody knows that you're saying snow, and what a fucking word I don't want to say. Anyway, and then they had like, yeah, apparently that song's supposed to be pretty hardcore. I did see it come up a long time ago on one of them this Is the 90s shows and they had somebody talking about it. Nobody knows what the fuck you're talking about, but it's supposed to be some hardcore song and I'm like I don't know. No, there's no informer. I always thought you were the informer because of how you were in the song personally, and he looks like he could be doing math equations sometimes as well on the side, except he's not that smart.
Speaker 2:No no. I wouldn't guess. I'm not sure about the mathematic abilities of MC Snow Right.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 2:I'm not sure whether or not he endorsed or wore Reebok pumps.
Speaker 1:Oh he did Another 90s mistake. Hey, foreign rappers guys, okay, you know like look at how bad. Hey, not all, no, no, no, but that Canadian guy, he got it wrong. Guys, don't follow that example Definitely.
Speaker 2:Oh, another guys don't follow that example, just saying, oh another, uh cinematic mistake of the 90s. Uh, all right, stop where my mom will shoot oh, stelgetti, right yes, yes. And sylvester stallone. I haven't actually seen it, but I'm willing to go out on a limb and say like oops, oh, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's pretty ridiculous. I do kind of remember it, I think, uh, I did, I've seen it, sort of. I don't know. Yeah, it's pretty ridiculous. I do kind of remember it, I think I did, I've seen it sort of. I don't know. I remember the show, I remember the movie anyway. I always thought she was funny, all right. Oh, she's great on Golden Girls. Yeah, god rest Her and Betty and all the rest of my film. Right, are any of them left?
Speaker 2:Golden Girls. Yeah, no, I think Betty was the last of them. Definitely she is, and God rest Billy Ray Cyrus' mullet. I've been looking up. I saw a more recent picture. He has like long hair but no longer dons the 90s mullet that he was. As I remember, I think he was the mullet guy or one of the mullet crew, but the mullet was definitely a sad mistake of the 90s people is it or any era it could be.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it might go back further, but the mullet is a very sad mistake. Oh, I'm sure it does it?
Speaker 2:had it had a, had a good run or bad run, I should say in the 90s, joe dirt I think seagal did not rock a mullet, but perhaps his ponytail could have battled Billy Ray Cyrus' mullet in an epic 90s hair battle royale.
Speaker 1:Yeah, steven Seagal's slightly robust ponytail. It actually always looked kind of like limp. What is with your fucking ponytail, seagal? You rusky, you rusky bastard. Just joking. Nothing to give Russians, justagal. You ruski, you ruski bastard, just joking. Nothing to get Russians, just their government Saying Anyway, yeah, did you know that Steven Seagal is actually not allowed in the United States anymore? I did not know that. We were like making a joke one time about how he's only allowed in. Like a quarter of the petting zo is in New Hampshire or something like that. You know, and you know just making some Steven Seagal jokes because fuck that guy, and like turns out he's not allowed in the United States.
Speaker 2:I thought it was because he made out for justice. Oh my god. Well, no, because we joke. You know, chuck Norris, obviously renowned badass and we did the episode on Chuck and all the uh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but why did Chuck never fuck Seagal up? Is it because he's too honest? He's a great patriot and a nice guy.
Speaker 2:I think so, but I did hear that Steven Seagal generally picks out a pretty tasty Potato salad. Most of the time partially, I think so, but I did hear that Steven Seagal generally picks out a pretty tasty potato salad Most of the time partially, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I heard he wins at hopscotch sometimes and he's known to most often wear mashing socks.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's a fine thing, steven Seagal, over in your Russian war camps. Whatever, I don't know what I'm saying. I'm just hating on Seagal and Russia Russia's government there for a second. I don't know what I'm saying. I'm just hating on seagal and and russia russia's government there for a second. I don't give a fuck. Uh, hey, so swag, weed sucked.
Speaker 1:I don't know if that's a 90s thing, but it was a big part of my 90s experience for us, sadly, yeah here. So here's yeah, dude, I don't know it's, it was. It's a thing a grasshopper leg smelled like gasoline instead of marijuana a lot of times, stuff like that. So here's one I got. I I was looking for like fads that were fails, and I remember, you know, when I brought this 90s mistakes episode, uh, like I was saying you know, um, the, the main thing that I said around it was like parachute pants, etc. You know, and I told him about it and he's like that's, it was like parachute pants, et cetera. You know, and I told him about it and he's like that's fucking great, you know. So parachute pants are a mistake, guys, but I didn't even bother because it's just too easy. Low-hanging fruit boys they have those low-hanging pants, okay, but what I do want to bring up is flip-up sunglasses. Those were it, oh God.
Speaker 2:When did those become bob wayne?
Speaker 1:wayne on a different world is where, yeah, or remember, uh, even wesley snipes and white man can't jump. I think he was rocking those in, uh, his epic outfits of the the era on that movie, that which, that movie's great.
Speaker 2:The new one, I don't know oh, I haven't seen the new one, the old, old one, and, yeah, the flip-up glasses with his bicycle hat, bicycle hat.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's a track anyway. Hey, so the guy who invented those his name is Coming soon, right, coming soon indeed. Fred Clark invented those. A player manager for the Pittsburgh Pirates invented a device for flip-up sunglasses in 1912. Clark attached his sunglasses to the visor of his cab using nuts, bolts, springs and hinges. This allowed him to flip the sunglasses up when he didn't need them or flip them down when it got too bright.
Speaker 1:I hope that helps everybody understand what these are, since we're just a show that doesn't do all the visual shit. But they were made popular. Right, we're not like dancing or anything. Sorry guys, sorry guys. I for you guys, sorry guys, I don't know. Anyway, made by, uh, they were made popular by, apparently this is what I kind of got out of it, but they were made popular in the 90s by people like sammy sosa can say go, jose can say go, you know, and people of that nature. Uh, they started the trend, they say, but I tend to remember them how you do more. You know so, but apparently you know that was a 90s mistake. Those are pretty stupid guys. Just get some sunglasses.
Speaker 2:It's not that hard people, anyway, or like a backwards hat on a white kid named Newton or something. Yeah, not cool guys. Yeah Not cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, hey, I have a friend in Missoula named Poor Newton. Yeah, newton, he's a cool guy man. He likes cats. He's a cool guy man, he likes cats. He's a neat guy. I like him, but he does have a yeah, and just because he likes cats doesn't mean he doesn't have a lady friend. Okay, I'm going to tell Newton. We talked about him in this episode. Shout out, missoula Montana. We do have other listeners in Missoula. One of them is a friend of the show, I feel sometimes if you've really actually listened, so who knows? All right, but Hoov, right. So shout out to Hoov for me directly Hoovah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, anyway, those are all 90s kids. Come on the show sometime, hoov, yeah, you should. Newton, I invite you on too as well. My friend, we can talk cats. I don't know much about them, except for last week Cat Got your Tongue. We figured it comes from a cat in nine tails being whipped, or Egyptian pharaohs, where they cut that out and feed it to cats. So that was from our friend Owen the Nick McMichael over here or over there everywhere, right? So, um, somewhere, somewhere, I don't know. Man, oh, here, I almost forgot the gem of my collection, because just having such a good time here on I Tell Stories which also reminds me that we do have a website, it's pitlocksupplycom. You'll find an array of things on there, from underground hard-to-find CDs to I Tell Stories shirts, and you can even click our subscription link and be a part of the movement right, support independent journalism and all these things. Stop being a slouch Hard-hitting independent journalism.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we tell facts, that's it. Okay, guys, hard-hitting opinion facts. Okay, hold on, I got to do this one. We're cutting in onto our tight schedule of time. No, we actually. I don't give a fuck how long or short these are, really, as long as we just roll my friend. Speaking of rolling on, did you know that Barbie? She's played a lot of roles over the years, you know, in her transformation from, I don't even know, in the 50s or something. So she's been like cowgirls and all sorts of stuff. So apparently, barbie.
Speaker 2:I guess Barbie didn't sell as well.
Speaker 1:No, Tyrone Bigham's wife. Yeah, no, it didn't do so well, but did you know? In 1991, she briefly moonlighted as an arsonist. So arsonist Barbie, but no for real Rollerblade. What the fuck? Yeah, hold on God. Anyway, that was a great setup for that though. So, anyway, rollerblade Barbie featured a pair of skates with flint in the heels, causing sparks to shoot out when rolled. Yeah, comparable to cigarette lighters, this innocuous toy could start actual fires if not careful. So Mattel had to quickly recall it, after many carpets were probably caught on fire or melted, I'm sure. So they basically put lighter flint on roller skates, and that was the toy In 91,. Barbie the arsonist probably burned some house down. I went sad.
Speaker 2:And they blamed it on Beavis and Butthead. Oh, I guess that was a couple years later, but nonetheless frog baseball.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 2:Denim unless you're JZA genius Denim was a mistake of the 90s. I like jeans. Jza pulls it off. You mean like a JZA, a full denim get up. Oh yeah, not most people, no, no.
Speaker 1:No, jza's one of the chosen, anyway, in a lot of ways, so he can get away with that shit. Now I know what you're talking about. I was like what I like? Jeans. Fuck off, You're going to alienate the whole audience that wears jeans. Owen, I can't afford that.
Speaker 2:There is a full denim suit. They're probably sweating Right.
Speaker 1:I don't think this is that good, right? Well, you already killed our Finnish audience, yeah. So Anyway, owen, owen's still sorry, finland, come back to us. Anyway, owen's still sorry, finland, come back to us. We haven't got one Finnish play my friend since Sad days over here and I tell stories I don't know.
Speaker 2:Hey, do you have other stuff going on or no? I mean, I guess rollerblades. I love you to include that in the mistakes, but you somewhat already covered that with arsonist barbie, which I never thought. I don't think I've ever used those two, the name and the yeah adjective, or heck of a toy.
Speaker 1:um, yeah, I know there was a lot also like furbies apparently, which some of these I don't know that much about because you know we weren't like rich, we didn't get all this stuff like that. I don't think so. Like with some of these toys, they were pretty bad, like that Furby toy. You could never turn off apparently, and that was. I remember. That was Like record all your shit too, right, yeah, but I remember that was like the first toy people like died at the store over that, oh shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, teletubbies, another mistake, ugh gross Was that 90s had to be.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean I don't, I never saw, I just saw the commercials. But it's like oh, barney, I don't know. I'm sure that made lots of parents turn to Valium and Jameson and All right, you ready for the last? One Stuff happening.
Speaker 1:Ready for this last one. I'm so sorry. My soul hurts for this. But reality TV in general, real world, you know that could be a whole thing of what went wrong. I am so sorry that that's like. We're lucky that Wu-Tang and some other things of that nature came from our era, owen, because if all we were known for was the reality TV it would be insane. I did look up and.
Speaker 1:MC Snow and Fama, you know. But yeah, no reality TV. Yeah, no reality tv. Dude, that like fucked everything up. I don't even know it was. It's like the decline of our whole civilization. Um, I do actually think watching tv to an extent is good for you to learn stuff. It's a good way to release all these things. But when people are making up like it's like the fake life, but they're presenting, representing it as real, and then there's people who like it's like fake life, but they're presenting it as real, and then there's people who actually believe it, it's pretty insane to me. There were some things that I did see, though, when I looked up the beginning of reality TV, and they had like candid camera. They counted for that, and there was a few shows in the past that they kind of considered reality TV, but I don't know.
Speaker 2:But that actually seemed like it was reality. Yeah Right, you know, like they surprised someone with some funny situation and whatever, and like their natural reaction. I think you know that was before the time, but it sounded like it wasn't so, just like scripted.
Speaker 1:No shit, yeah, no, I'm with that. I do feel it. No, and even the beginning of this is all scripted. I remember it all. It's like that's also when, like MT, oh, carson Daly, all this stuff started at the same time. That was the bad side of it. And then somehow it landed with like Puffy Jackets and P Diddy. I've been telling you motherfuckers for years out there in the world Everybody's like why are you so hard on Puff Daddy? Fuck that guy. I always hated Puff Daddy. Anybody who knows me, I don't even care, I'm like God. You halfway ruined rap man. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Well, he definitely like Biggie, you know, is ready to die. I'm not the hugest, Definitely respect the hell out of Biggie, but like everything I heard after that, when Puff whatever the fuck he like called himself, it's like he ruined it, it's not. He had to be on every track and it sounded like there's like a baby goat in the background or something he's like. What the fuck is this guy doing?
Speaker 1:Uh-huh, uh-huh, yeah, Like get out of here, we don't stop.
Speaker 2:Owen.
Speaker 1:Yeah, see, try to listen to Owen. I'm gonna leave that in so people can understand how annoying that is. Yeah, everybody fucking Just saying hey. But you know what? Like seriously, fuck Puff Daddy. And everybody's like oh, get over it, colton. No, look at that now. Now everybody's like, yeah, fuck that guy.
Speaker 2:He's like a slime yeah, a total slime bag, and like no talent but yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, what the fuck Anyway.
Speaker 2:Nonetheless, this has sure been a positive spin down memory lane.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, that shit made me pretty mad. Guys. Not a fan of the puffy coats, hey, that's how we defined that back then. You know that mace video, that's when it all started. That was the decline of what we were so fond of at that time. Not saying that there has been great stuff since or won't be in the future. I do see some positive trends in music. I won't lie. It's finally starting to happen, owen, but I don't know how long it'll take to recoup. Anyway, nonetheless, puff Daddy, fuck off, and I hope everybody out there in podcast land has a great day or evening.
Speaker 2:Much love everybody.
Speaker 1:Yep indeed.
