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Anthony Bourdain: Rarity in an Overcooked World
Uh hoi, hoi.
Speaker 1:Well, hello there, my co-host of this show, I Tell Stories.
Speaker 2:Hello.
Speaker 1:I don't know where to go with it. Sometimes I don't know what to say when we're talking at first. Here, my friend, we just for everybody out there, literally like I call Owen, and then he answers, and then I just take it from there and we start our show. There's no prep or plan here at I Tell Stories, my friend. Today, though, on the other hand, we are going to speak about someone that is near and dear to our friend Owen, the Nick McMichael's heart here, and I come to like him quite a bit too myself Anthony Bourdain.
Speaker 2:Anthony Michael Bourdain was a deaf author, travel, television show host and one-of-a-kind character. What I took most from watching his shows was his remarkable ability to convey to the viewer what life was like for real people around the globe. I mean, this guy wasn't riding a tour bus with a blubbery, fanny-packed, draped American to go see the Eiffel fucking Tower, and while he stayed in swanky hotels at times and dined on food fit for those who outclassed royalty, he clearly cared about us regular people, whatever. Yeah, so we'll get into some of the. There's too much to discuss, really. I mean, I've never seen an episode that I didn't take something away from.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, there's no way to cover this man's life in entirety, that's for sure. I mean really anybody, but like this guy, Holy shit, Like one day we could do like a three-hour episode on him, I'm assuming here how he lived. Pretty interesting guy, I don't know. Did you have any talking points you wanted to start with, or do you just want to roll my friend Just?
Speaker 2:roll yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, anthony Bourdain, known to his friends by Tony typically Anytime, like it's somebody who is very friendly with this guy, they call him Tony, which seems to be pretty common for Anthony's out there.
Speaker 1:Hey right, so in his early life, though he was born in 1956 in New York City, you know, he actually didn't have any like desire to cook. I read a thing with his brother where, like, they were just like no, he did not cook as a kid, no, he did not cook as a teenager or a young adult. You know, he basically was doing his thing, ended up going to some college, right, and, uh, not doing very well, apparently, or not caring to do very well, and his parents had a serious talk with him about you know how, basically, he's wasting their fucking money, like a lot of kids out there probably do, right, and he ended up getting a job at a restaurant and cooking, and I think that's where it all kind of started, from what I understand, you know. So that's a pretty big deal to think about this guy. You know, it wasn't like his passion initially, but boy, did it ever become that shit right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and I know far more about the. You know about the TV programs and his life after being a chef. I thought it was interesting to see him go back to Leal. I think you watched that episode where he had to go back and try and do what he did nightly just a few years later and it looked I mean, it looked brutal.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And that's something I remember him. You know they're showing this is a busy restaurant in New York City. I can't fathom how much of a stressful just fast paced doesn't describe it. Full, just fast pace doesn't describe it.
Speaker 2:But it shows, you know, shows what's going on to get you your yeah, your steak that you've decided to go out and eat. Until he says you know, uh, think about this when you go to reach for your, your wallet, thinking about tipping your your server, or I don't know how that place operates, but I know a lot of places I like to go. The tips are spread evenly from the hostess to the guy busting his ass washing dishes, because they each deal with different difficulties.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know so, yeah, I do agree with that. Most of the places I worked at no offense to that comment, my friend, but I've worked at a few restaurants and they do not split tips with the cooks. Most places absolutely do not. It's probably more likely the local restaurant or the family-owned, and those are the ones you should go to anyway, people. You shouldn't go to the fucking Right. Those are the ones I do go to. Yeah, I know, I know exactly. I just wanted to point that out real quick. Man, people need to support these family restaurants, I think. But yes, that is a thing when you're when you're.
Speaker 1:One thing that he said in an interview that I was listening to he's like people don't understand how physically demanding cooking can actually be, and he was saying this as he was talking about, like you know, himself in his early 40s, early to mid, and he's like I knew I was about done, I was spent. He's like it is physically demanding to go in there day in and day out and try to cook the same thing, exactly the same, every time, over and over and over again. You know, and that struck me. I'm like it. Damn right, man, it is. It would be difficult as fuck to work at some of these restaurants, like these people do, and be able to replicate what they've done before all the time. So that way it's a consistent thing for people who enjoy that specific meal. You know, blew my mind, oh, so yeah.
Speaker 2:Was there a particular region that he went to that made you, like, really want to go there?
Speaker 1:oh, I mean, I know there's so many to pick from, but um, on the show, the ones that I was, yeah, I mean, well, I loved how he went to mexico. That was probably my favorite, but I, uh, I was very interested in the one and I want to say he went to Saudi Arabia when he was with that woman. Yeah, that was just a fascinating thing and it really to me stood out who he was as a person, because he had picked between some finalists of where he was going to go. You know, these writers or chefs or whatever they may have been, I can't remember now and he picked it. Just fans, I believe. Just fans, that's right. That's right.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, and he picked this woman from Saudi Arabia who was one of the only women in the country who had an independent broadcasting type thing that she could do without men present, you know, and he was so big on highlighting these areas where, you know, we look at him out on the news and you think, oh, it's just sand and everybody's so mean and hateful and all this, this and that.
Speaker 1:No, the normal people are very kind, typically, like these are all people around the world, and that was one of his biggest messages, you know, and when I was also listening to him talk, he had been to France at some point earlier in his life and the Bahamas or something you know, but like nothing major and he was a pretty average Joe, like you know, and it wasn't like he was super well traveled. He wasn't like you know, I don't know. And then they just after Kitchen Confidential, you know it all took off from there and he just was so perfect for the role. So sorry to make that long and drawn out, my friend, but there's a lot of places I see that he went on that show. That made me very much more interested in the culture and the region in general. You know what?
Speaker 2:I mean yeah, yeah, I think, uh, what stands out over? I mean there's so many, but san sebastian, that's in it. I think it's autonomous, but it's Basque country of Spain and that looked just magical. Would not do it justice, I suppose. But yeah, there are. You know, I might watch an episode tomorrow and be oh no, that's number one. But yeah, like you were saying about the Saudi Arabia, that almost at least as much, if not more, than any other.
Speaker 2:The people seem to be joking around and smiling and yeah, that's not the picture painted for us. No, us Westerners no, and that's you know. That's something that I noticed People seem genuinely pleased to have, even in the middle of nowhere in Laos. These people weren't watching his program, but they, they invited him into and that's that's when it stuck with me quite a bit that you could tell it was really bothering. Not bothering, that's too mild of a term, but it very visibly upset Tony when he he sat down with a man who, laos, wasn't even part of the Vietnam War, but they're close enough. There's still landmines exploding and this man had lost his leg and an arm and couldn't do his work anymore as a farmer. And the man asked Bourdain, you know, does this make you uncomfortable seeing it? And Bourdain, you know, does this make make you uncomfortable seeing it? And he said you know that he was horrified that it happened, but that every American should see the effects of war because we don't see it here.
Speaker 1:No, we don't see the actual. We see, like, the rubble of the buildings. You might see a couple people being pulling out on stretchers and there's some semi gruesome stuff, but that is that is scratching the surface. People, that's. That's nothing compared to people being dismembered and all these things. It's very, very gruesome, very gruesome on this is taking a dark turn.
Speaker 1:Yes, it has, my friend. Hey, you know, I'll switch it and fix that up, I hope guys. I can't remember who the quote come from, but I was reading and one of the funniest things I'd ever seen that described him perfectly was cheerfully dickish. That is great, yeah, because he was always so nice he really was but he'd have some like slightly snarky comments that weren't derogatory or nothing, but he was. He was cheerfully dickish. He would kind of joke and fool. He's a big, big joker man. I I also read some stuff where he was in his early life. He used to walk around with two samurai swords, like that's what he wore everywhere he went. That's not a joke, just like how he was. He's a real character of sorts. One of the things that I found that was as I dig through my notes people please bear with me, it was just neat and I'm going to quote this guy, david Remnick, editor-in-chief of the New York Times. So here he is.
Speaker 1:My wife came home one day and she said look, there's a really nice woman at the newspaper. Her son is a writer. She wanted you to take a look at his work, which seemed adorable. Right, a mother's ambition for a son. I took this manuscript out of its yellow envelope, not expecting much. I started to read. It was about a young cook working at a pretty average steak and fry place on Lower Park Avenue avenue. I called this guy up on the phone. He answered in his kitchen. I said I'd like to publish this work of yours in the new yorker. I hope that's okay. That was the beginning of anthony bourdain being published. So I I told you about this and I got it wrong. His mom brought it to to the freaking chat.
Speaker 1:I thought he was the one who wrote this letter, but I know it was. His mom pushed it and, uh, you know he's like there's not a more perfect person for this. He's actually kind of a heck of a writer and that's something that shocked me when I was looking more into him, that it seemed like that possibly could have been his passion, like his first passion, that and he seemed seemed to really enjoy music as well, like all of us for the most part, who have a soul. And he had written a book. He'd written some novels, I guess, and apparently even he, to his credit, which he is self-deprecating in a joking way, which most great people are, I feel, and he had written a book about Typhoid Mary. Written, written, thank you see. That's why I don't write books, though I write raps, yo. No, I'm just kidding Anyway. So nonetheless, he'd written a book about Typhoid Mary. Do you know who that is?
Speaker 2:I know the name of it, though I'm not Will Burst, right I? I know the name of the dope, I'm not Will Burst.
Speaker 1:Right, I'll just give a quick background. Typhoid Mary was a lady back in the day in New York and she was a carrier of typhoid but wouldn't be sick. She was always asymptomatic, right? Is that how they say? That I feel, yeah, yeah, okay, cool. So basically she kept spreading it everywhere and just would refuse not to kind of deal. So eventually they ended up like locking her up on an island in New York and this is a big deal and you can look into it.
Speaker 1:But I might actually have to read this book because he's kind of a lot of people praise his writing about Typhoid Mary as like a great historical piece, like very like scholarly of sorts. You know what I mean. So that was pretty cool to know about him. And he he didn't see this kitchen confidential book blowing up. It came out of nowhere. I had also read that he worked at a he after he was on the New York times bestseller list. He's like, yeah, this is probably going to go away. So he, just he was. He went back to work and he kept working until basically he got offered like something to do with writing a script for a movie that apparently was including Brad Pitt at the time and then ended up being some sort of TV series. Didn't know that either. This guy lived a hell of a life. Yeah, he did a lot of shit, so I do also think that you know his job, as he ended everything when he was touring the world would be like the perfect job for you.
Speaker 2:Just being honest, yeah, yeah, I'll put in my application.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let me uh I'll have to get in contact with those people that that hired him.
Speaker 2:And let's get at the food network yeah, remember, I'm saying he wrote a book. I thought, no, you know, I wrote a book. I thought no one would read, yeah, and then start on a television show. I thought no one would watch. And oops, yeah man, but again that's that adds to. Like his charm is that he's not he. I've heard I heard a couple people who clearly weren't very familiar with calling him arrogant, and I think either they don't understand what that means. I think they mistook the snarky humor.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Because he was never anything but gracious.
Speaker 2:And you know, like we talked about the eating, Not that any part of a warthog sounds delightful, but he ate some of the worst, after a dirt omelet, essentially, but that's all these people in Namibia had and they were offering it to him. So he said I'm just going to sit through the worst meal of my life because this is their only option and that was more important than, as I said, all know all the fine foods and the wonderful accommodations and stuff it was. That wasn't what the show was about, right? And then it is funny, the stuff I noticed. He says Jeebus all the time, which I do as well. Yeah, and just little. The shots at Q-list celebrities are always hilarious.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he does. He has a good sense of humor, man, he really. The other things that were said about Anthony Bourdain by his camera crew is that he literally never complained. He's like he never complained about anywhere. We went any car ride, nothing. He's like you just basically with him, made sure you had plenty of Marlboro Reds and you're just fine Like he loved interacting with the people, even when they were just a bit irritating him. Made sure you had plenty of Marlboro Reds and you're just fine like he. He loved interacting with the people, even when they were just a bit irritating. The main thing that he was known to say to them was like, just stick close to me, guys. Like.
Speaker 1:He was kind of shy, you know, and people wouldn't assume that of him being as he's a well was a large celebrity, you know, in his world especially. But I think he was and he was internationally known like nobody's business and maybe a lot of people in the States don't recognize that, unless they're like us, I suppose. But he, yeah, man, this guy was very gracious, he was all about exploring and showing and being kind and you know, just like the Mexico episode, he was such a big like advocate for, you know, mexican immigration and just immigration in general. He's like who the fuck do you think cooks all the food in the kitchen? It's all a bunch of Mexican guys. He's like it doesn't matter where you're at New York, it's like some French restaurant. Bunch of Mexican guys. You know, anywhere you are, yeah, leal.
Speaker 2:Carlos was the head chef, you know when he went back, this is ages ago now, but, yeah, pretty much the entire kitchen staff at one of the, as I understand, one of the nicer French restaurants in the United States. Yeah, the kitchen is all Mexican, hardworking, right People making you elegant, elegant food.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I mean there's yeah. Yeah, he was such an advocate for people and the under, you know, the underserved communities of the world. And you know one thing that was said about him as well, that some one of his friends says and it kind of seemed to ring true with a lot of people when I was reading about him was the world is a lonelier place without Anthony Bourdain, and I was like damn.
Speaker 1:Well said yeah man, I feel it too, and I barely just got on the Bourdain train here, man. I mean I'd seen the shows back in the day and stuff, but I'd never been much of a Food Network guy or any of that sort of stuff. But boy, I wish I would have, because it's not even about food. I mean, fuck, it was to bring it back to Nibia or whatever.
Speaker 2:Where was that at?
Speaker 1:Nibia.
Speaker 2:Okay, I can't say it properly, or, as the cheese puff calls it, nambia.
Speaker 1:Nambia All right, gotcha. So he was eating a fucking warthog butthole. They like, literally like it was the intestine with the anus on the end of it, and he was doing it to respect their fucking culture. And you could tell he was like oh my god, I don't want to do this, but I'm going to because thank you so much for showing me this and doing what you do and letting me be a part of it, you know? So, yeah, the seal eyeball.
Speaker 2:The Canadian Inuit killed a seal and then just there's nothing down, just like on the kitchen floor on the linoleum just butchering it up, and then the eyeball is like an offering of like. You know you're an honored guest, so yeah, he's definitely. I'm an adventurous eater. I thought until watching Mr Bourdain like yeah, there is stuff I would not go near.
Speaker 1:I'd call him Sir Bourdain, like knighted and all, but I think he wouldn't like that. I think he'd just like to be called Tony. But he earns the right to me. That guy's amazing. The more I learn about him, the more I'm like fuck dude. This guy's great, I don't know.
Speaker 2:And that's something I saw. David Chang is another very famous chef and seems like a very, very kind man as well, and he said, everywhere he went with Tony, people came up and he never turned anyone down, never said he wouldn't take a picture with him or sign something, or. And I guess david shank said how do you do this? This has got to be just exhausting, you don't? You don't get a moment um out in public without, and he said it. Bourdain said you know, if this is the worst I have to do is be gracious to people who enjoy what I'm doing, then you know I'm great with that, yeah, so again, just like Go ahead, man.
Speaker 1:I just Sorry I guess I'm cutting you off, but to add to that, there was an interview I listened to with him and he was talking about similar things and he's like you know, yeah, it is kind of annoying when you're at the airport and you just got off a plane and you have to use the bathroom really bad and people are coming up to you as some guy recognizes you and wants to take a picture and talk and you're like, oh, I just got to use the bathroom. He's like but this is what the hell? This is so much better than setting up a steam table at a restaurant. He said it's. He's like what do I have to complain about it? That's the least I have to do to make this guy's day shit, you know, and I'm like gosh amazing. I wish we all had this attitude. How he lived that way yeah, and that's for such.
Speaker 2:You know, I've always who I see on TV, or you know, even musicians I listen to. I get that they're they're real people and maybe they wouldn't be, you know, wouldn't live up to my expectations or hopes, I guess.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And I absolutely, especially from hearing and not just after he was gone, but just hearing what others had to say about him. Both you know contemporaries and that what we saw on the screen was actually him. You know, I have faith in that. You know, obviously there's dramatic license or whatever. You have to kind of play some things out, but there's no bullshit with Anthony.
Speaker 1:Bourdain. That's something he talks about a lot. Everything I read where it was like an interview-style thing and he's really just kind of being himself and telling people about shit was he would go to talk about like what do you miss about cooking Right or in the kitchen and all these things. And one of the only things he really actually missed was there's no fake shit, man. He's like you can't go in there and, just you know, say you're about something you're not, because guess what, everybody's going to find out you're not the next day. You know like he. He's like some of the realest people that I've ever worked with were in kitchens and he's like that's what I miss, you know, and the camaraderie of that. You know it wasn't the cooking, it wasn't. Obviously it's very laborious and it's not probably the best pay, and I know it's not actually the best pay in most circumstances. So you know all those things, but he's like it is absolutely not fake. He was not about bullshit, but he wasn't a dick about it either.
Speaker 2:But he, just, he was very, he lived in a very real fashion. My friend, I think, yeah, yeah, for sure. That was when he went back to cook and he was talking to Carlos and Carlos was telling him he seemed like a very young guy I hope he was kind of kidding. He was saying his cholesterol was 270. And Tony was like wow, that's high. And Tony said you know, we used to talk about pussy and now we're talking about cholesterol.
Speaker 1:Oh, my God, I know what a guy. What a guy. No, he worked hard, played hard, lived life. On his own terms, he was a very genuine person. I haven't read any of his books, but I do think I'm going to pick up that Typhoid Mary one, to be honest with you and possibly Kitchen Confidential, just because, even though he talks shit about it, I imagine he kind of likes it too's. That's how I would be about it. I suppose in a way I don't know, that wasn't my best work, because you know how you do something and then years later you're like you know, I don't know. That's that's the gist. He didn't.
Speaker 1:He wasn't about like uh, just gloating, I suppose. Right, famous as he was, you know, and the uh? The other thing that caught me pretty funny was is he's like uh, what country are you most popular in this? Uh, this writer, a gq, was an article I took a lot of source from. There's a great gq article on anthony bourdain where they interview a lot of his friends and family, the camera crew, but it's all just brief uh quotes, you know, and stuff.
Speaker 1:A lot of his friends and family, the camera crew, but it's all just brief quotes, you know, and stuff a lot of the times and he was like, well, he's like no specific country necessarily, but he, he was like it would always seem to be a tourist from some other country, like if I'm in, you know, I'm just gonna throw stuff out here If I'm in Greece. It was somebody from China who recognized me. He's like it was the weirdest thing. He's like everywhere I went, like they'd be. And then he said in Paraguay was one of the places where he actually had people waiting for him in his hotel lobby. He was, he was pretty big in Paraguay. He said, yeah, pretty cool man, I like this.
Speaker 2:Well, he made a a hoff reference. So it's frightened, I can't. I wish I thought everything I wrote down in that book I didn't bring with me, but it was something like the terrifying um affinity for david haffelhoff music in germany like yes, another, and I forget it was in Asia, I know that, but he, oh yeah, shanghai he referred to.
Speaker 2:I don't even remember exactly what the dish was, but as jellied mop water oh gross, that sounds disgusting, yeah and yeah, when he was in Korea apparently you can rent like any DVD and just watch it in this little room he was like I hope they have Steven Seagal movies.
Speaker 1:Oh, geez, yeah, God, steven Seagal and his ponytail, yeah, yeah, oh, hey, yeah, oh hey. So I did find that his first submitted, they call it. He submitted an unsolicited essay and it's the one I was talking about with his mother or whatnot is don't eat before reading this, and he submitted it to the New Yorker and it goes as follows the piece candidly revealed the gritty and glamorous realities of professional kitchens, from late-night drug use to the insanitary practices of rushed chefs. And that's where he got his start. It like really just blew up from there and that's how he got his kitchen confidential book deal. Like all this stuff just kept coming and I feel he was very deserving of it.
Speaker 1:Too Rarely do I 100% feel that Like just you just get the impression when you start learning about this guy that holy fuck, what a great human being. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean we say that about people at times and you know there are a lot of people that are famous out there, that are nice, like we were just talking about keanu reeves. Uh, soon to be friend of the show, I hope one day. I don't know, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1:But a Bill and Ted fame and how great he is, but like no, this dude was like. You know, everything I read about him it doesn't seem like it's just people polishing up something because he's passed or anything like that, they're just. They're just so like ah, tony was something else man, he was amazing, you know, and he was known for in college when he had some roommates apparently he would do a lot of practical jokes like he'd turn the blender on in the other room and start screaming and freak people out like stuff like that. He was, you know, so maybe, yeah, I know, right, so a little over the top sometimes in his youth, especially judging from the samurai swords he wore around town apparently, which is hilarious. And another thing, another note with things like that is he was very proficient with nunchucks, apparently. So these are all things.
Speaker 2:Okay, I didn't know that. I knew he was big on jiu-jitsu, so she took the end of his life.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow, yeah, I didn't See there is so much. I mean where it is. Hopefully, if anything, guys, this sparks some interest. What show would you recommend them to watch, since you're more of a connoisseur of Bourdain than I am?
Speaker 2:Honestly, like I said, said every single episode I not only enjoyed, I like took something away from it. Yeah, um, and so I really was late to the party. A cook's tour was this first that I have not seen? I don't, I'm gonna go back and try and find it, but I'm working my way through no reservations. Which was next and I mean that's amazing, but I was really the only one I watched while it was on the air. Was that Parts Unknown? And I mean you win anyway. There's just yeah, there's just no way he can't be entertaining, informative, and I mean I do love, I do love the food porn, you know, cause some of it's, some of it's stuff you don't want to see yeah, like English blood cake.
Speaker 1:That's pretty gross. No yeah, not doing it.
Speaker 2:Nope.
Speaker 1:Yeah, or that Icelandic festival he went to where it's all like goat's heads and that was weird. It's sharp. Yeah, he was so funny. He got offered that at every restaurant and every time he ate it he's like oh my God, this again he's like this is literally the worst fucking thing I've ever ate in my life, and that was.
Speaker 2:And then the drink in Peru. Remember that one? I do not, I think it was yucca. Which yucca? But to ferment it like a woman in the village would chew on the stuff and then her saliva would essentially like ferment the stuff into an alcoholic beverage.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, I you know, I've seen that on a different thing, but I can't believe. I believe he did that. I believe he was there and did that. I just that's fair, that's amazing. Yeah, that is a thing, and, uh, I don't know what I seen it on, but it was yucca, indeed, you know so. But man, this guy, uh, yeah, I encourage you guys to check out, no reservations, and just start it from episode one, which I believe is the iceland episode, isn't it? It is, yeah, yeah, and he, uh, yeah, he's pretty cool man, like there's no getting around it, I mean life. Well, I mean, he went to every continent, I'm guessing right, because, except for Antarctica, I suppose, but no, he went to Antarctica.
Speaker 2:Of course he did. Of course he fucking did.
Speaker 1:Did he have dinner on the space station? That's what I want to know next, because jeez, oh man, but no, definitely check out Anthony Bourdain. Guys, I'm gonna. I would love to give, uh, you know, maybe like a nod to a book for you guys to read or whatnot, but I have yet to read them, so I don't want to do that right now, but myself included yeah, I have kitchen confidential, so I'll read it and send it to you, okay yeah, you should, man, for sure you know, if I don't, hopefully I might pick up a copy before that.
Speaker 1:My friend, you know, um, gotcha, yeah, might as well, right? Um, I don't know, man, is there anything else you want to kind of touch on here with him, is I?
Speaker 2:guess we have to. I thought about just not even touching on the obvious and just really okay, just going with all Right. But we do have to acknowledge that on June 8, 2018, anthony Bourdain took his own extraordinary life. As I drove west to beautiful Island Park, idaho, to celebrate my mother's birthday that day, I felt a strange void. I wouldn't pinpoint the only occurrence I've had to relate it to until all these years later, but I felt a sense of loss of someone I'd never met. I now remember the feeling when kurt cobain allegedly took his own life when I was barely a teenager. Even at that young age, I remember telling mom that I was more saddened by the fact that someone I felt stood for the right causes was gone than the loss of an entertainer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was a fine evening, as all as all of the case, at the cabin my folks built in the mid-70s mussels in white wine, garlic sauce over linguine and wonderful wine in conversation to pair with the meal and I still couldn't shake the empty feeling. Looking out over the flats of the Alpenglow and the hills with the ever-majestic Tetons visible to the southeast, I wondered what Anthony Mourdain would have thought of this place. I thought about the likelihood he even knew Island Park existed, much less visited. Even knew Island Park existed, much less visited. I think he would have loved it. You're a great inspiration, uncle Tony. We miss you.
Speaker 1:Damn straight my friend yeah.
Speaker 2:And if you or anyone you know is suffering from issues involving mental health, please, please, reach out for help. Someone cares more than you know. Oh gosh, yeah, much love everybody, thank you.
