I Tell Stories
I Tell Stories Podcast covers a wide range of topics discussed by Colt Draine and Owen "The Mic" McMichael. From the scourge on humanity of violent business hippies and Scott Baio to peculiar Serbian Mother's Day traditions,the boys offer their unique perspective. Revolutionary artists,legends of folklore and bizzare following of fast food items are just a few of the subjects touched on. I Tell Stories aims to bring attention to individuals and occerrences that are too interesting to be forgotten. Two long time friends who keep each other laughing give listeners their take on the world. Everyone has a story, these are ours and those of many others.
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Mac Mall Interview: Cuddies Say Yeee
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Mac Mall's presence on our milestone 100th episode brings the authentic voice of Vallejo to listeners worldwide. The Bay Area legend opens up about the beautiful chaos of fatherhood, the responsibility of community leadership, and the transformative power of perseverance.
With remarkable candor, Mall shares fascinating insights into Vallejo folklore, including his chilling revelation about likely crossing paths with the infamous Zodiac Killer who called the same small city home. This conversation evolves into a powerful discussion about addressing community violence through positive action rather than empty words. "Words without opportunity is just wasteful," Mall emphasizes, explaining how true leadership means creating paths forward for younger generations.
The conversation takes a deeply spiritual turn as Mall recounts surviving a shooting that claimed his friend's life. "I don't believe in God, I know God," he declares, distinguishing between faith as concept versus lived experience. This profound gratitude shapes his approach to both music and mentorship. Hip-hop historians will appreciate Mall's breakdown of how Bay Area slang terms "Yee" and "Cuddy" originated and spread globally through the influence of artists like Mac Dre.
Looking toward the future, Mall discusses his upcoming book "Fizz or Die," his commitment to never selling his masters ("that's my generational wealth"), and his evolution as a performer now working with live bands at historic venues. From a child with a severe stutter to a respected voice in hip-hop, Mall's journey exemplifies the transformative power of dedication, community support, and divine protection. Follow @therealmagmall on Instagram to stay updated on his upcoming projects, including the repress of his classic album "Untouchable" dropping soon.
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Okay, it's all good. Let's run it All right, bro. Hey shit, bro. I haven't talked to you in a while. We got Mac Maul on the line here at I Tell Stories. What's good with you, bro? How's Vallejo, the Bay Area and General treating you, my friend?
Speaker 2:Oh, you know it's going down right now. It's All-Star weekend, so you know we got a lot of athletes and celebrities out here doing their thing uh, you know man, everything is good. You feel me. I'm a father of a four-year-old, so, yeah, I got my hands full with that. But everything is beautiful, man, just more music, more shows, you know, more keeping it mackey hell yeah, dog bro.
Speaker 1:I was so happy when you, when you told me you were having a baby bro, it made me pretty excited and shit, you know what I'm saying. Like, that's right, I was like back ball having a baby, come on now.
Speaker 2:No, but that's hell, yeah, man, I mean it was just time. You know what I mean. It was the right time with the right woman. And, um, you know it's been beautiful it's been. You know it's been a lot of work. You feel me especially. I'm hands-on, you know what I mean. So you know I'm dealing with finicky eaters and you know, uh, bedtimes and all that, but it's like it's definitely well worth it. And, uh, you know the title of a father. You know what I mean the best title ever, right?
Speaker 1:yeah, bro, I agree with that. That that's 100, my friend. Um, hey, you know, I'll just kick something off real quick because I was looking into some valeo shit. Uh, because I don't know a whole lot about the area. I used to stay down in East Oakland real quick and like Hayward and such, but I wasn't down there long enough to get up your way actually. And one of the things I was curious of is like what is there any like folklore around the hood, like like ghost shit or anything like that?
Speaker 2:I mean there's a lot, there's a lot of folklore shit, or anything like that. I mean there's a lot, there's a lot of folklore. You know, uh, the, the man who they basically said was the uh, what's his name? The zodiac killer? Yeah, he basically lived in vallejo. Oh, like, I'm sure, I'm sure that i't been at a store or a football game or the local pool, I'm sure that the city is so small that I'm sure that I haven't been in the same room or at the state fair or the city fair with the Zodiac Killer and he ends up. You know they got a new documentary that's on Netflix right now where they talk about it and it actually opens up. The opening credits are at a pool called the valeo plunge that I used to go to damn, you feel me and he was he.
Speaker 2:He was always at the pool and uh yeah, the documentary is very eye-opening and it really let me know that I I know that I have been around the zodiac killer because he died of old age.
Speaker 1:Damn dog, that is a trip. Yeah, that's some shit bro.
Speaker 2:And the city is so small that you're going to bump into somebody. I don't care who it is. We're going to be somewhere, whether it's at the DMV, whether it's at a grocery store, if it's at the fair, if it's at the July, if it's at the july 4th uh parade, we're going to be by each other. Right, I'm sure that you know I have been by the actual zodiac killer oh damn, that's a trip dog.
Speaker 1:You know the city I'm from billings montana is like literally the same size as valeo, so I do understand that bro yeah yeah, and where I'm at we got the little people of the Prior Mountains is like more of a folklore. There's a lot of killer shit going on there, but not a Zodiac killer, that's a trip dog.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the Zodiac killer. Yes, sir, but you know I want to give a shout out to my city. You know there's a lot of violence now. You know what I mean. There's a lot of violence. Now you know what I mean. We losing a lot of young people. You know what I mean. You know one of the bad things was that our police per capita shoot more innocent people than anywhere in the world.
Speaker 2:You know, what I mean, or anywhere in the United States. Rather, let me say that you know, per capita we had more police shootings than anybody and now they're shooting police shootings than anybody, and now they're shooting. They just shot a little four-year-old girl, got caught in a shootout in my neighborhood, the Crest, and you know it's kind of bad. You know what I mean right now. But you know we got good things like LaRusso was bringing a lot of positivity to the city with the youngsters and stuff, but there's also that negativity. So we're just trying to, you know, get through it and right.
Speaker 1:You know, see the uh, the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow right, bro, and bringing awareness and being about your city is a thing my friend and like that is something that me and owen are pretty big about is, uh, just human rights in general. You know what I'm saying like, um, yeah, yeah none of this shit, I mean me.
Speaker 2:I try to lead by example, you know what I'm saying like um, yeah, yeah, none of this shit. I mean me. I try to lead by example. You know what I mean. And I try to pick positive youngsters on. I don't reinforce the negative images and stuff that they try to sell us or try to put on us. Any youngsters from my neighborhood that's doing positive things I I have. You know what I mean I have. I give them plays, I give them games. You know I mean, and just try to lead by example, because I don't do that, I don't. You know ride, ride. You know what I mean. I have positive vibes with positive people by me and you know we all about longevity.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean, bro, that's exactly right, and leading by example is the number one thing. How to teach people, my friend, because, like you can't, like you know, talk somebody into submission to where they're going to change their behavior in that way. I mean we all know that don't work. I mean I've been to prison and shit, and that didn't change me. It took other things to change me. You know what I'm saying. So, like by you being that positive community leader, especially where you're at, bro, I mean I know how East Oakland is, so I can only imagine you know what I'm saying and you are a figurehead there, dog. As far as I'm concerned, it was you and Mac Drain, doobie and E40, dog, you're like the leaders of that area. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and we also tried to excuse me not to start to cut you off. Yeah, and we also try to excuse me not to start to cut you off, but we also try to not talk to them and not talk down to them. But also, I believe that you cannot call yourself an OG unless you really take care of your community and not only talk to them, but you also give them opportunity, positive opportunity. Yes, you feel me, but you also give them opportunity, positive opportunity. Yes, you feel me, because me just talking to you and not you know what I mean. You know, if you hungry and I'm talking to you about, hey man, I know you're starving, blah, blah, blah. You can't eat them words.
Speaker 3:Right you feel me.
Speaker 2:You need an opportunity to feed, to eat, and you also need the knowledge to learn to. You know, catch your own food and feed yourself. Yeah, so you know what I mean. Words without opportunity is just wasteful. You know what I mean. But you also got to give them, youngsters, the opportunity. You got to give them opportunity to to do something positive right, you feel me?
Speaker 1:yeah, don't, uh, don't get, don't give them fish, teach them how to right. Um, yes, sir, yeah, when I got out of prison in 2004, there's a native cat on the reservation by me and his name's superman, and he's actually really big in all sorts of communities, just like the macy's day parade. He's a christian rapper, but, uh, he put me up on on how to get my shit out there. Uh, professionally, you know, and actually do do it. You know what I'm saying and he was one of the ones that put me in the first studio I was ever in and that changed my life, bro, big time. You know what I'm saying, so I do understand that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we all need people like Superman.
Speaker 2:We all need people like that, you feel me. We all need people just to help us. You know what I mean, and not just look at us as look down on us. You know what I mean Because you know a lot of people who who pulled themselves up. They think that you know what I mean, that it wasn't God, it was, it was them. And if they can do it, anybody can do it, but it's not. It's not always like that, you feel me, and it has to. The stars have to align, have prayer and God got to be with you, are whoever is your higher power, you know what I mean has to be with you to to give you the strength to fight another day, to pull yourself out of the thing, and a lot of people don't have that. You know, I don't believe that it was just me. I, you know. I believe I had praying grandparents and I had people who who was praying for me, even when I wasn't praying for myself right you feel me.
Speaker 2:That's why I'm here right now. You know, people ask me, you know, do you believe in God? No, I don't believe in God, I know God.
Speaker 1:There you go.
Speaker 2:Knowing and believing is two different things. I know because I have been spared. I have been saved, I have been you know what I mean and I'm not, you know, go to church every Sunday Christian type dude. I wouldn't even, you know, put that label on me. But I do know that there is something that makes the sun rise and make the sun set you know what I mean and something that has saved me literally.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. I had my friend die in my arms. You know what I mean my homeboy Kato. May he rest in peace. You feel me. Yeah, and boy Kato man rest in peace. You feel me. Yeah, and he was sitting right in front of me. If you read my book, my opinion, it talks about that. He was sitting literally right in front of me, yeah, and instead of me dying, I got thrown out. The car too. He ended up passing, you feel me.
Speaker 2:Yeah bro, and it really just made me look at life. You know what I mean. So I just know that. You know what I mean. We got to give these youngsters opportunity. We got to give, not even youngsters adults too. You know what I mean. We got to just give people a chance to, you know, because that's why you never kill yourself, because you know the next day, the next minute, the next hour, the next 30 minutes can be the time to change your life. Damn right, bro, you feel me. So you just got to stay in the fight, you feel me. It ain't about if you lose Sometimes, it ain't about if you win, it's about if you're down to fight. You feel me, because as long as you got breath in your body, man, you know what I mean. Hey, man, you got opportunity to change your life and change the life of everybody around dude, I really feel that, bro, you took this in the right fucking direction.
Speaker 1:Dog, I really appreciate all that shit you're saying. I mean I never would have thought as a kid like listening to untouchable. That was the album I first started listening to yours. And the Crest Side that track, bro, the Crest, that one just always got to me yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it reminded me.
Speaker 2:That was a love letter to my community.
Speaker 1:Dude I love that.
Speaker 2:That was a love letter to my community. You know what I mean, where, if you see the love that I have. But you also hear that you know the bad side too. You know what I mean of people that we lost, people who ain't never coming home right, people who ain't. You know I mean, but but it's like you know, even though it's messed up, I still love you and I still appreciate all the game that you gave me. Right? You know what I mean. That's why I wasn't no drill song, even though drill wasn't around then. But it wasn't no song, just pumping it up, it was. It was just a cool smooth beat and I'm just.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:I'm damn near a blue song yeah, you feel me yeah, um, one thing about untouchable I am we I am repressing that. You know what I mean, and this will be your first opportunity to cop that uh in like 20 I mean since 20 years ago. You know what I mean. You have opportunity to cop that. I should have it back from the manufacturer in about two or two weeks or something. So so just uh, check out my, uh, my instagram, the real mag and you will be able to purchase that Hell, yeah, dawg, yeah, I actually got a copy.
Speaker 1:Still, oh, word, word, word, dude, that was like I'm not even joking, man, I should have reached out. Yeah well, it's like a trip to me, bro.
Speaker 2:I should have reached out because I had to repress it and I had to find like one for the artwork and the CD and like one for the artwork and the CDs and I end up asking you know, a supporter, and I got that together. So, yeah, damn you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, that's the shit dog. That is like my album, bro. That's what turned me on to you and that was like kind of like my childhood's like theme was all that. You know what I'm saying. Like I really. And then it trips me out, just like you said, that perseverance thing, like don't give up and shit, like being. You know the age I was when I started listening to that. I think I was only about 12, bro, and like I would have never thought here now in my 40s that I'd be talking to you on the phone and have a relationship with you and doing like cool things. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Respect.
Speaker 1:Yeah, dog for real. Hey, you want to go ahead?
Speaker 2:I mean I'm thankful that that record was able to mean something to you in your young life. You feel me. Oh, I did you are the person who I did it for. You know what I mean Get uncapped and people who could appreciate it, so I'm glad that that meant something to you in your life. I appreciate you Fuck.
Speaker 1:Yeah, dog, no, I really did. That's definitely a thing for me, hey, so you talked about my opinion and shit, you have a new book coming out, right, you were talking about yeah, I'm actually right now I'm writing the new book.
Speaker 2:The new book is called Fizz or Die and it basically starts off where the last book ended. And it starts off when Mac Dre comes to my I was living in frisco after my wreck and mac dray came to my uh apartment that I had there in davey city and, uh, the book starts from there and it starts with us reconnecting, start to work on the us open and he's just becoming, you know, part of this, this nation and just the whole collective.
Speaker 2:And he goes from there, talks about Kansas City, talks about him getting murdered, it just talks about everything and it basically goes up to what I'm doing right now. He talks about me putting out the book, me putting out the skateboards, me putting out the fashion, me touring, traveling and all the stuff that came with Thea's you know what I mean and Thea's indictment that took hella people to jail. He me touring, traveling and all the stuff that came with fears you know what I mean and the the fears indictment that took hella people to jail.
Speaker 1:He talked about all that okay, shit, no, I'm in, I'm gonna be getting me a copy for sure, dog. Um, yeah, man, that that actually like, because we're gonna this is gonna be our 100th episode, my friend, this one and shit and uh, one of the congratulations, congratulations, thanks, man, and uh the. The big thing for me and owen is, is that that cutty say ye, that's like our damn theme, from like where we were staying at uh, for a long time we call it the shantyplex because it's pretty gutter, little four house section and shit, and that's what we used to do is be like ye like all the time. And when we first heard the us open it was like, oh fuck, there we are. You know what I'm saying. And my question on that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the Yee. Let me tell you a story about that.
Speaker 1:I want to know it actually came from.
Speaker 2:you know that was basically a South Richmond thing. Shout out to the Manor, shout out to you know what I mean to Filthy Field, the first rapper that was ever on America's Most Wanted Filthy Field, the first rapper that was ever on America's Most Wanted Filthy Phil. You know what I mean. The Manor, because they say that out there, they say yee, yee.
Speaker 2:Right Now, the thing that happened, that brought that to the crest, is that when Mac Dre and the Cuddys had went to Lumpop you know Lumpop Federal, usp or whatever they had hooked up with a dude named Drack up out of South Richmond and stuff. So the Richmond and the Crest, you know they intermingled and you know they started using that as kind of a bait thing. And then Mac Dre, he brought it from the Fed and since he was so popular you know what I mean it went throughout the Crest to since he was so popular, you know what I mean. It went throughout the crest to where it was a crest thing. It was only only the crest and south richmond city. That was the only people damn you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:And and then you know, with dray being so big, it just it took a richmond thing and put it throughout the bay and throughout the country. You know what I mean. Now it's just like you know. Just like cud, like Cuddy. The word Cuddy Right Only Crest dudes would say Cuddy. Right Now Cuddy is worldwide now, yeah, it is.
Speaker 2:It's going to be literally worldwide Cuddy Yo. It was like back in the day in LA if a cat said what's up blood, you would. What's up blood, you would know he was a blood right the cat said what's up cuddy?
Speaker 2:I mean what's up cuz? You would know he was a crip. Right in vallejo it used to be. If a dude said, hey, what's up saha? That means he was a heelsider, he was wearing from e40 numbers, oh okay, and he said what's up cuddy? That means he was from the crest. Nobody else said that, you just answered the question going back to the ye thing. Yeah, the ye thing came from the Manor Richmond to the federal penitentiary, to Max Ray. Max Ray brought it back to the Crest. It went from the Crest to Worldwide.
Speaker 1:Yo landed at our laps as well. Man, hey, Owen, yeah, what's?
Speaker 2:up.
Speaker 1:You want to ask him a question? Owen had a couple questions for you. Real quick I'm going to let you guys kind of talk real fast.
Speaker 3:It's all good. Yeah, what's up, man? First of all like thank you so much for being on the show. Your shit's so dope and what you're saying about just community is amazing. I do want to say first off that of all the shit, just the verse on Midnight on a Bay I'm from the Crescent, I ain't playing with a full deck it makes me fucking happy any time I fucking hear that. It just I mean seriously, but do you think there is hope for hip-hop in the future? Because, like the, shit that sucks.
Speaker 2:First of all, I want to say this Midnight in the Bay and a lot of the beginning Fizz Nation like the Value 1 and 2 and 3, we were recording in what was it? In North Oakland, in a big warehouse, right, we had two studios up in there, one big one and we called it Disneyland. This one was with Jack and Johnny Cash. Everybody used to meet at this studio and we called it Disneyland and we would just work, we would hop on songs. That's why you hear a lot of different collaborations of the Fizz Camps, because those were the people who were there. That was in the studio. That's how a lot of those dope songs came along was because of Disneyland in North Oakland.
Speaker 2:Now, you asked me about as far as hope for hip-hop, you know what I mean. They are trying very hard to uh, to take the control and to buy all the masters and take the control and they try to give you the illusion, because of streaming, that your masters are not worth something. And hey, yeah, we give you, you know, 20, 30 million, 40 million for these masters. Hey, they're not doing that now, you know, just for streaming. But I see, I don't believe that. I believe they wouldn't want to buy them if they weren't worth anything. Right, you feel me, things change. The way that people consume music, change me. I own every record that I ever put out, 50 or 100, and I will never sell my master. You feel me, that is my generational wealth. Those will be things that I pass down to my children and my grandchildren. You feel me, I had to fight hard to own them. So there's no way, you know, I'm I'm giving them up. You know what I mean, uh, and I think that you know, with just the way that people consume music, you know I used to have that when I was younger, you used to have to have a record deal. Now, all you have to have is a computer and a microphone and you can be media. You can be a rapper, a musician, you can be just a talking head. Whatever you want to be, you can be, and there's a lot of chances to be independent. You don't have to be a musician. You can be a manager, you can get into graphic arts. You can do just so many things, man, from your home. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:So in one sense, even though they're trying to take back so much, I mean just with technology and the way that the world is going and social media, we have more control than we ever had. So it's just what do you want? You know what I mean. At the end of the day, this is a job, this is a career. You know what I mean. So you can chase fame or you can set your claim in the motherfucking field and go for yours. You know what I mean. And start out small and become, go for yours. You know what I mean. And start out small and become big, you know. So I do believe we have a future. I just think that it's not going to be the. You know it's going to be a different way than I got it. The industry is going a different way than we have saw it. You know what I mean. So it's the opportunities, the money and everything is going to be right there. It's going to have a different look.
Speaker 1:Damn Good words, man, but what else did you got for me? I know you had another question. You wanted to ask him, bro.
Speaker 3:Man. What's the place I have to eat? My mom, she stays in Davis. It's about an hour from Vallejo. What's the place we have to go?
Speaker 2:eat in Vallejo Like the best place to eat If you were in Vallejo. There's a spot on the other side of the Carquinas called Dead Fish that has a beautiful view of the Carquinas Bridge and they serve dope food. I also need one of my favorites in San Francisco. It's called Bang Long and that's the spot that you hear Matt Dre talk about a lot in his raps and crustaceans. It's basically Bang Long crustaceans are the same owner, but they have the secret salt and pepper crab that you have to come out to here and try the garlic noodles. You know what I mean. It's definitely a celebration spot. So banglong crustaceans and dead fish Damn Love it.
Speaker 1:Yes, hell. Yeah. Do you have anything else for a moment?
Speaker 2:Yeah, when y'all touch down, call me, man, I'll pull up on y'all.
Speaker 3:Hell yeah, bro. I was going to say, if I roll out there, it's on me. And also, what are you smoking on? Still Backwoods, or, like you know, we got these fucking hash oil, pans and shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, my baby mother is a hippie. You feel me, so you know what I mean. She has me on wallpapers a lot, you feel me. Okay, fuck yeah, bro, you feel me. So you know what I mean. She had me on raw papers a lot, you feel me.
Speaker 3:But uh, as far as the tree, you know, I I live actually up here in uh, you know, in lake county.
Speaker 2:I live up here about humboldt county, so this is. It's basically a whole. Oh, okay, you know what I mean. Right now I'm smoking. Hold on, what's that shit? Damn, I'm smoking. It's called Blue Hair Band, but it's by a company, king something. You know the hash-infused, keith-infused joint, so I'm smoking on that right now. Blue Hair Band.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, oh yeah man, that's a good direction my friend, hey, uh, so, uh, what, what else you got coming in the future? You're mentioning you're gonna do some shows coming up soon and some projects are uh coming out and things of that nature.
Speaker 2:I'm very yeah um, last year, last year was my first time performing with a? Uh, with a live band. Nice and uh, know what I mean. Shout out to my boy, kev Choice, my band director. Well, it was basically they wanted me to perform at a spot called Neo Soul House Party and it's basically an upscale brunch thing, and it was something that I did on a uh. You know a? Uh, a rooftop supper club in san francisco was a very dressed up thing and, uh, I performed with a live band and, and this year I'm gearing up to perform, um, if not april, the mid to late may, I'm performing with a live band at Yoshi's, which is a historic blues club that they have in Bay Area. All the big acts, all the R&B acts, they come and perform here and I'm going to be performing there with the live band and I'm looking forward to it. The first time I performed with a live band was the first time that I actually had my mother or father come to my show.
Speaker 2:And over 30 years that I've been in hip hop. This was the first show that they actually saw me and, you know, just blew their mind. So I'm looking forward to doing it at the historic Yoshi's Club in Oakland and it's going to be a big deal, man. I'm going to do a short film, you know, showing the practices and you know just everything that goes along and making this night happen. So I'm definitely going to look out for that. But I'm also touring with Be Legit and Selly Sale. You know what I mean. We on the Bay Bosses tour and I'm also doing a lot of shows with my Cuddy Doobie. You know what I mean. We're doing a lot of shows. I mean I'm one of the most booked uh artists in the bay area. You know what I mean. If you, if you follow my instagram, you see I have two, three shows every single month and I'm uh. I'm thankful to god and the fans and supporters that I'm able to still you know what I mean be relevant, put, put asses in seats.
Speaker 1:Yeah, bro, for sure. Hey, you were talking about that live band thing. One of my daughters she's 17 right now One of her favorite tracks is Ism from Rebuild. Yeah, that shit's dope. That gives me that live band. Feel you know what I'm saying. I like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we do a lot of stuff. I mean, for this performance I'm going to be pulling out a lot of, you know, my friends and people who I've done songs with. It's going to be a beautiful night, man, you know it's definitely the kind of night that you know. You and the girl dress up, y'all come out. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:And drink and look, fly and hear some dope music Hell, some dope music, hell. Yeah, the band that I had. That's why, kev Choice, I give you much love because of the band director. You know I was kind of nervous because you know I had a rock rap band with Ray Love called Crying Scene.
Speaker 2:Okay, you know you can find it on YouTube and stuff, and with Crying Scene it was like we did so we had to just to be okay, right. So I was kind of intimidated about that. But my boy, kev choice man, he just you know he, he's also an artist, so he kind of you know, he grew up with the music, so he was just like soon as we start practicing. I knew that it was gonna come off like gangbusters, because you know he, he does his thing yeah, dog, that's ill.
Speaker 1:I love that shit. I'm really proud of you, dog. I don't know how else to say that Like it makes me happy and excited.
Speaker 1:And I appreciate that, yeah, like I feel like a genuine like damn bro, I'm really happy you're going this way, man, and that you made it through all that, because I do know how difficult a lot of that stuff can be. I know you've overcome a lot and like, just look at you, dog. Like look at you now. Would you ever thought when you're a little kid that this what you'd be doing?
Speaker 2:uh, nah, not really man, because you know, as a child, you feel me like. You know, I used to stutter. I had a severe stutter problem. I couldn't even talk. You know what I mean. Now, my whole life has been based around me running my mouth. So of course I, just as that little kid who couldn't say hello to you, you feel me without stuttering.
Speaker 2:I would not have think that I would be, you know, spitting into me, you feel me, and and just with the, you know, with the surroundings and everything. That's that's why I, you know, I, give the glory to the higher powers man, to my ancestors, you know, for keeping me solid and praying for me even when I wasn't praying, or you know what I mean. I know that it wasn't just me. I know, with people who actually love me, and and even the people who love what I do I knew I wouldn't be in this entertainment if it wasn't, you know, for the people who say, hey, man, that song changed my life, right, that song made me think away, or or that song just gave me a feeling. You feel me, because I know that music has got me through it.
Speaker 2:So, so for me to be somebody who actually, you know, give that love out to the people and make them feel the way hey man, I'm, you know I'm I, I. I can't ask for nothing else. You feel me and I feel definitely thankful and I feel appreciate. You know, I appreciate the people who appreciate me. You know what I mean Straight up, because it has been a struggle and every day, every day ain't sunny you know what I mean. But hey man, I'm going to make it to the next one. You feel me, god willing.
Speaker 1:Fuck yeah, dog, I love that Before.
Speaker 3:Fuck yeah dog, I love that before we start to wrap things up, bro Owen, do you got anything else?
Speaker 3:for him that you can tell us just I can't even thank you enough for shit. Your music amazing. But then to like all of this that you're talking about life, man, as we get older and shit like so this podcast has been the call got me on. I told him I never would have thought to be on one. All this shit's been personal in a certain way. But this is like, yeah, just like I can't thank you enough, man, and I'm going to fucking crack some fucking Mack Maul this evening and fucking just enjoy. Thank y'all for having me on the 100th episode, man.
Speaker 2:That means a lot, man, and I want to commend y'all for working hard, you know, because some people quit after two episodes. And y'all on your 100th one and I'm on it. So thank y'all for having me, man, I appreciate y'all and and I'm on it. So thank y'all for having me, man, I appreciate y'all and I want to come out there, man, to do a show man, so let's get it together.
Speaker 3:We can get that going bro, If you're ever, ever have the misfortune of being in Billings, montana. Come by the shop, like I named this shit after after, well, shit, he was Lynch Colt got his you know blue pitbull, and then got the brother lynched. That'll be my first stop brother.
Speaker 3:Yeah, now I call him Boogie. After Boogie Down Productions we got a fucking shop. I'm trying to get Colt and Nicole to open one out there, if we can get the funds. Just Boogie's bodega. If you're ever in montana and billings like, come by and I'm looking hell yeah, bro, no doubt man, hopefully, hopefully I can be on this.
Speaker 1:Uh, the 200, 200th episode oh, that's gonna be a thing now bro that's gonna be a thing, bro, that's gonna be a thing, hell yeah we gotta get to work.
Speaker 1:yeah, no man, that this is good bro, hell, yeah, I mean, like all that positivity you were talking, bro, that's exactly what we're about right now, and his shop there in billings montana is all about community and just trying to like make sure people are okay and have a place to go and stuff. I mean he even stayed open on christmas this year for the people who didn't have families to pop by and stuff like that and just hang out. Oh, that's beautiful man, that's beautiful.
Speaker 2:Yeah, bro, so that's beautiful man, but yeah, man. Shout out to Bill in Montana. Man, hey, yeah, Shout out to y'all man.
Speaker 1:All right, brother. Well, I I hope you have a great rest of your day. Dog, I'll be giving you a call here in a little bit.
Speaker 2:All right, no doubt, hey man, shout out to everybody you know what I mean, who's listening to this man? And I'll see y'all on episode 200. All right, yee.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah, all right, brother, I'll talk to you Yee, yee yee yeah. All right man peace.
Speaker 3:Yee Much love everybody, Thank you.
